Why are we paying for this?

[luke shaver]

So here we are again, another week of fails and dissappointments. Bonus loot weekend? that was a fail, and now we get word of upcoming dlc that will cost us $10 if we, the players, want to enjoy. My question is why? why do we have to pay for this stuff when we have been going through everything trion has been putting us through? Hard system resets, system crashes, disconnections, I've spent $20 on bits in the game only to have my money taken and not given the bits. And what does trion say about this? " where sorry for the inconvienence, please try purchasing from the store again with a smaller amount." ??? !!! Are u serious?! One of my friends on ps3 has had to send his system to sony to be repaired because of hard resets caused by this game. I have had to hard reset so many times I've lost so much data from my ps3. I've seen the website (you know the one) that ppl go to to talk about this game, and me along with thousands of other players have come to the same conclusion....we are actually loosing money playing this game, and getting nothing in return. Some ppl have even purchased the season pass only to realise that the money went through but....yep you guessed it....no season pass. I'm happy to know i'm not the only one going through the trion "game shame" but it really is making me wonder....is this accidental.....or not? anyway I will be joining the rest of the thousands of players selling this game and moving on to something better and trustworthy. I'll see you all on world of starcraft for the ps4 in 2014. And once again, i'm getting to your emails as soon as I can but please remember i'm only one person and it takes time. Stay tuned for the news on the upcoming court battle of trion vs the players, lol, yeah its coming soon. Trion really shouldn't have rushed a game that says it's an mmo shooter only to have no mmo eliments and so much wrong with the game. Goodbye for now gamers.

[Sword]

If anyone replies, Please don't quote...It gave me a headache reading it first time lol

[Covington]

I am not paying for anything at the moment - I did pay for it and there is on going content, updates, fixes, 2 years (we hope) at least of new storyline.

I can see the frustration if you too time off to play today and they are fixing the problems people have been complaining about, but it should be online soon - then we can complain about new problems.

[Covington]

If anyone replies, Please don't quote...It gave me a headache reading it first time lol

No worries I got your back on that one!

[REDBURN]

Why?.Because we can
That doesn't mean we should,however.

The horse has suffered countless beatings and for good reason.I suspect a few more before we unveil the new horse.
As for system crashes,I honestly have lost count.Alarming is the running tally

[Jokerz_89]

Why? Simple, I enjoy the game. I don't have these unrealistic standards people seem to have that expect every new game to be perfect. If you don't expect these kinda hiccups with new games, go play Monopoly.

[JagerMyk]

Because we can an do, I cannot go into how many crashes an items I have "lost" that were not in the matrix, but I am an will be always A Defiance Lifer ~mJ~ So Happy Hunting in whatever game you find, an remember to erase your forum name on your way out

[fmarin83]

i thought i was the only one experiencing full system crashes. Has anyone been having the sound go completely out unless you restart?

[liquidstate]

I had the sound completely go but it returns after a while. Seems happen more so on Arkfalls.
Did read somewhere on here that it happens if you use the Optical Output which i do to my surround amp.
My mate only uses HDMI and has never had the sound go.

I also get the system lock up now and then but to be honest its not as bad as it was with Battlefield 3.
I mainly get it on Co-op games myself.

[SteveMND]

My question is why? why do we have to pay for this stuff when we have been going through everything trion has been putting us through?

I dunno; I played the beta, and knew exactly what Defiance was going to look like, and what I was getting into when the game launched. I think the question here is more "why would YOU be paying for this stuff?"

The pay-DLC is pure bonus stuff, and has been so described since well before the game was launched (as mentioned several times, each DLC pack will also contain some accessible freebie elements). If you buy any of them, you have no-one to blame for that purchase but yourself; just like the buyer is the one responsible for purchasing the game in the first place.