Defiance: Patch 1.020 Discussion

[Omnifarious Xji]

Titles show effort and participation, they show uniqueness when used.

Yes, some are generic and there for everyone, but those that bought UE PAID for a title, those that slogged through Ep.1 missions got a unique title, those that arrived at and stuck through launch have a unique title. Those that didn't missed out, but if they can just pop out to a vendor and buy previous titles then whats the point in putting in the effort to obtain them?

If they sell unique titles just for finding the vendors, that's still kinda lame cause they've been posted on forums and websites to be found quite easily by poking around.

Titles should carry some weight, otherwise the Pursuit mechanic is just an EGO grind.

Well you can't see people's names in-game anyways, and there's no quick and easy way to find out how said person got their title. "Oh! He's a Pale Wars Ronin. Hmm, how did he get that title?" *Spends an hour and a half in the pursuit section, can't find the title in there anywhere* So really what's the point if you're a Dare Devil, or a Keeper of the Norther Lights? Nobody's gonna see it, nor know why it's important.

[Buruko]

Well you can't see people's names in-game anyways, and there's no quick and easy way to find out how said person got their title. "Oh! He's a Pale Wars Ronin. Hmm, how did he get that title?" *Spends an hour and a half in the pursuit section, can't find the title in there anywhere* So really what's the point if you're a Dare Devil, or a Keeper of the Norther Lights? Nobody's gonna see it, nor know why it's important.

I do agree the name not being seen is annoying and needs to be addressed.

As for the rest of your argument, I merely point out the same system used in other numerous games. If it was so pointless why would that offer it? What you find pointless others may indeed take as inspiration to 'find out' where that came from or just simply ask, you know as a social measure.

Regardless, being able to purchase titles, especially past ones, would just be killing one fun aspect of play for most people. Why go do the missions when you can just grind exp get scrip and go by your titles?

[Epyon]

I do agree the name not being seen is annoying and needs to be addressed.

As for the rest of your argument, I merely point out the same system used in other numerous games. If it was so pointless why would that offer it? What you find pointless others may indeed take as inspiration to 'find out' where that came from or just simply ask, you know as a social measure.

Regardless, being able to purchase titles, especially past ones, would just be killing one fun aspect of play for most people. Why go do the missions when you can just grind exp get scrip and go by your titles?

The new titles will probably be new, I doubt they would render pursuit rewards useless. I personally dont use titles but Ive earned my share.

[EV76]

Trion thank you. I am pumped! Looking forward to the updates. Like yesterday's episode didn't pump me up enough!

[Saminator]

Are their any clan bug fixes? We are still unable to scroll down to the entire list, we can only go down to "f" alphabetically until it kicks us all the way back to the top of the list. Due to this, me and the clan are unable to view the whole list. Also the "not being able to send/receive messages through clan chat" is very disturbing.

[justifiable187]

So... where's the infector nerf ? Do we really need 80% of people using infectors during PvP ?

And something tells me that this shotgun nerf is nowhere near big enough to make people use anything else but shot and cloak combo.

I think you just answered your own question - "shot and cloak combo" is why there are so many infectors in PvP. Infectors are one of the only real counter to cloak, because the pustules don't cloak when the player does, making a cloaked player visible.

[Omnifarious Xji]

I think you just answered your own question - "shot and cloak combo" is why there are so many infectors in PvP. Infectors are one of the only real counter to cloak, because the pustules don't cloak when the player does, making a cloaked player visible.

Decoy and BMG are also counters to cloak.

[KOLZ]

People complain about shotguns, now thyere "fixed". Has it crossed your mind that infectors are untouched? and yes they use cloak too. If you complain about shotguns but dont say a peep about infectors means either you use them or you dont PvP.

Or it could just mean he got his *** owned by someone with a shotgun and he has to cry about it instead of learning how to play. That's the usual thing to do on any game.

[froman]

Nowhere does it say they will be selling the previous titles nor that they will be selling any of the earned titles. It just says titles. Hell it could be selling the bob blows title for all we know. I would wait to see what they are before getting to bent out of shape.

I would imagine its just some maybe cool randoms that anyone can get it all.

I heard that about Bob...

[Natjur]

I think you just answered your own question - "shot and cloak combo" is why there are so many infectors in PvP. Infectors are one of the only real counter to cloak, because the pustules don't cloak when the player does, making a cloaked player visible.

So there will no more one shot kills from cloaked players, which is good, but Infector's kill then cloak skill.

Now they just need to change Infectors, so rolling clears the DOT like it clears the other dots and more people will start using other weapons. The bugs are easy to shoot, the homing bullets do little damage, but the DOT that ends with a bug hatching for 605 damage is the killer.

If that could be cleared by a roll, (and therefore allows shields to recharge). It think that would fix it without breaking PVE.