'Significant Shotgun Tuning'

[Eihder]

Tired of the usual i started rolling with smg/sludge rocket. Works great even against immunizers, this would just make shotgunners easier for me to deal with.

[Nikola Tesla]

Music to my ears. Unlike all of the other ragebots who are out in full force today over TRION ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIX THINGS... I would like to say thank you to Trion for actually noticing the imbalance of shotguns and detonators, and fairly quickly fixing the problem. Im sure there will be all sorts of bugs in this patch, but I dont care.

If it took 5 days of server downtime just to fix pvp, it would be worth it. Now all of you Cloak shotgun detonator noobs will be faced with the impending predicament of actually needing to have skill to succeed in pvp.... and those of us who weathered the storm and still succeeded with any other ego power and weapon combination will rain pwnage down on you and likely cause you to dashboard and start playing the next flavor of the month game instead. Good riddance

Go ahead, cry. Your tears extend my active ego power by 3 seconds.

See, the problem with this is they are balancing everything for PvP without a care to PvE, not to mention, shotguns pretty much worked like the real thing, get someone close and blow a hole in them, or am I missing something in the concept of a shotgun? By the way, I'm sure they can still be used to one shot kill in PvP, they didn't lower the damage output, so your praise here is pretty invalid, as is your idea that shotguns are not going to be the goto weapon for PvP still. Did you not read what the nerfed? Shooting speed, nerfed, magazine size nerfer, I use a VoT Nanofragger and one shot you, my shooting speed doesn't matter (only get one shot), my magazine size doesn't matter (can't get smaller than two), so I'll see you in the PvP, but you won't see me.

[DjSeraphim]

See, the problem with this is they are balancing everything for PvP without a care to PvE, not to mention, shotguns pretty much worked like the real thing, get someone close and blow a hole in them, or am I missing something in the concept of a shotgun? By the way, I'm sure they can still be used to one shot kill in PvP, they didn't lower the damage output, so your praise here is pretty invalid, as is your idea that shotguns are not going to be the goto weapon for PvP still. Did you not read what the nerfed? Shooting speed, nerfed, magazine size nerfer, I use a VoT Nanofragger and one shot you, my shooting speed doesn't matter (only get one shot), my magazine size doesn't matter (can't get smaller than two), so I'll see you in the PvP, but you won't see me.

This 100% aside from the immuniser there are no real balancing issues with any of the guns in pvp it's all about tactics and practise obviously those who play competitive shooters regularly are gonna have an advantage but maybe next time someone owns you in pvp instead or sending them a message calling them every offensive name under the sun ask for a little advice.

[Leathernek1]

Go ahead, cry. Your tears extend my active ego power by 3 seconds.

The next patch is going to be putting this on a cooldown timer.

[Adrena Chrome]

See, the problem with this is they are balancing everything for PvP without a care to PvE, not to mention, shotguns pretty much worked like the real thing, get someone close and blow a hole in them, or am I missing something in the concept of a shotgun? By the way, I'm sure they can still be used to one shot kill in PvP, they didn't lower the damage output, so your praise here is pretty invalid, as is your idea that shotguns are not going to be the goto weapon for PvP still. Did you not read what the nerfed? Shooting speed, nerfed, magazine size nerfer, I use a VoT Nanofragger and one shot you, my shooting speed doesn't matter (only get one shot), my magazine size doesn't matter (can't get smaller than two), so I'll see you in the PvP, but you won't see me.

They nerfed the nano fragger too genius. read the pellet count. went from 12 to 8. courier it is. till that gets nerfed.

[TurboSquid]

First off, let me say that this has nothing to do with the OP. I respect your opinion.

Shotguns. They were designed with a very strong strength and a very volitle weakness. Learn to take advantage of them, going both ways. Their in every sort of PvP game with guns, this should be nothing new.
Infecters. Not that hard to counter. It's new to the world of PvP, were just not used to it yet.

The human is supposed to adapt to situations and learn from its mistakes; trial and error. So stop all this fcuking b¡tching and use your god dam brains! Has humanity become so stupid that they can't figure out that you can stand at a distance far from a shotgun and just use an assault carbine to kill them? Or if that guy is shooting you with an immunizer, if you just shoot right back at him with a saw you will kill them before he even strips your shields! Don't like cloak shotties or have a problem countering them? Decoy with sensor sweep! For gods sake people, how many forms of autism do you have? We were all born with common sense, so use it.
And yes, shotguns are a little OP in this game, but there OP in every game at one point or another.

[MaxSterling]

We were all born with common sense, so use it.

Unfortunately, I think this skipped a generation. This generation is all about crying until they get their way.

[Sdric]

I wonder why nade launchers were nerfed though.
On the European servers they were barely used and in my opinion the smallest issue in PvP.

[TurboSquid]

Unfortunately, I think this skipped a generation. This generation is all about crying until they get their way.

I forgot to mention problem solving. It seems as though theirs still a chunk missing from the prefrontal cortex.

[Multigun]

I still have my Full Auto Immunizer. *trollface*

And you are exactly what makes Immunizer's seem more OP then it is.

Just for people who don't know, the previous posters and all the others like him use a +burst mod to make their supposed to be "burst" weapon and turning it into a full auto infector, with range. This is a very known exploit/bug that Defiance has had since at least the beginning of the game, and I don't think Trion has admitted to it as of yet.

So thanks Nexx, you are helping the community become more pissed off as it is and leave the game more and more. Grats....jerk.