We used to joke in Everquest

[Vulpina]

EQ was my first MMO. I miss that feeling - your first MMO. It's never that magical again. Holy crap I sound emo.

EQ was my first aswell. I miss it aswell. But to clarify my point. 10 years on, I think Trion can learn from the patch/break issues and do some decent testing on the test server. Especially seeing as the servers are patched globaly at the same time and us poor old euro's come home from work and get a propper grrr on. I know our (US/EU) time zones a pretty much oposite. so how about spliting them up?

[Julian Terkar]

EQ was my first MMO. I miss that feeling - your first MMO. It's never that magical again. Holy crap I sound emo.

Still a better love story than Twilight.

[Ryzaerian]

Still a better love story than Twilight.

LMAO. Well-played.

[Vulpina]

You said Twilight...gag!

[BJWyler]

EQ was my first aswell. I miss it aswell. But to clarify my point. 10 years on, I think Trion can learn from the patch/break issues and do some decent testing on the test server. Especially seeing as the servers are patched globaly at the same time and us poor old euro's come home from work and get a propper grrr on. I know our (US/EU) time zones a pretty much oposite. so how about spliting them up?

Unfortunately, test servers still don't help catch all the bugs. Heck, I can't count the times that I've tested and retested things in IT that still broke when they went live.

[Mourneblade]

You know something I just realized? My wife's software company only grosses around 1-2 million a year, and they can afford a test server...

Why buy a test server when customers will pay you 60$ a copy to test your software on live servers in real time, become unhappy, and rage quit after a few months!?
/sarcasm

Makes very little sense to anyone with half a brain and any sort of business savvy.

[mikegonzalez2k]

To all the whiners, please go play your Call of Duty...

[BrazenBull]

Well the problem with giving an ETA is all the whining and complaining when it turns out to be wrong. Take the server down complaints then double them. Giving ETAs that goes wrong is like trying to put a fire out with gasoline.

I think it would be great if they gave some ETAs, but I know why they do not. Game communities throw too many fits and complaints when it goes wrong. Goes with the gimmie gimmie attitudes and general lack of respect to others.

The following phrase comes to mind:

"This is why we cant have nice things."

If they never planned on giving an ETA they never should have said they were going to in the first place, simple. Its about standing behind what you say, not what was actually said. I bought this game this afternoon, and this is my introduction to it. Sign of things to come? I hope not.

[Mourneblade]

To all the whiners, please go play your Call of Duty...

To all the apologists.

Stop pretending to work for Trion. No they are not going to hire you. No you will not get free "swag" from them. No they will not buy you a hooker (because let's face it, you already blew your 60$ on Defiance and now you can't afford one) because you made excuses for them, or insulted someone for being upset.

COD is poopoo and so is your trolling effort.

[Calypso Atlas]

Not a single company learns, lol. They ALL make that mistake.

The funny thing is the whiners are usually those who have no played MMOs long enough to get it to sink in that patches cause problems no matter the title of the game.

People like us are just used to this sorta thing happening. Patch day, means do not plan to play that day.

Maybe if this game had a test shard or public test server I could agree with you. It doesn't so major bugs slip through which reflects poorly on the company.