Please make non-combatants within Shadow War invisible.

[Arsenic_Touch]

What I'd like to see is anyone within the area being tagged for PvP. That'd fix your issue with the game I suppose.

That would work. Should make them like a neutral faction though that can't capture anything. (only way to capture is if you queue for the shadow war) So if you run into the shadow war zone, you can kill either side and be killed by either side. That would make things fun.

[Finish the Fight]

They are often killed yes but these are supposed to be accidents. If your argument is based on intentionaly causing civilian deaths…well maybe that’s why they don’t let you.

[Cutlass Jack]

What I'd like to see is anyone within the area being tagged for PvP. That'd fix your issue with the game I suppose.

Um hell no. You do realize that players have reasons to be in areas other than 'griefing' PvPers. PvP should always be optional, and PvE players should never be forced into PvP just by working on their PvE content.

[Chemikz]

Um hell no. You do realize that players have reasons to be in areas other than 'griefing' PvPers. PvP should always be optional, and PvE players should never be forced into PvP just by working on their PvE content.

I know but they don't have to be in the area, and shadow wars don't trigger that often. It's like when an arkfall hits or emergencies pop up in your time trial. They can hide from players if they really need to, people will be more focussed on capping/defending anyway.

PvPers shouldn't have to deal with PvE in their PvP, like emergencies and arkfalls spawning in shadow war if that's your argument. But they do, because it's all part of the fun of a dynamic open world MMO. Same goes for people who are just doing missions.

While we're at it why not remove all distractions from the game. Scrap Arkfalls and Emergencies because they get in the way of missions or races.

MORE CHAOS!!!

[Zabuza]

I disagree. It's open world pvp. If you want instanced/phased pvp combat join competitive multiplayer. Don't mean to be rude, but I think removing everything from shadow war that isn't to do with capturing bases would ruin the fun of it. The thrill of emergencies spawning when you're trying to cap/defend. Griefing or being griefed. Seeing massive amounts of numbers. What I'd like to see is anyone within the area being tagged for PvP. That'd fix your issue with the game I suppose.

I never said anything about NPCs. I like them too. Rescues are great, makes the SF Shadow War great. (The NPC enemies are combatants in my eyes, as I can shoot them and they can shoot me.)

My only issue are the players that are not participants in the Shadow War. Some of them are just trying to watch. Others are being Barneys and running around acting like they are shooting you. When someone actually comes along and starts shooting you it becomes hard to tell which is which, especially if the person shooting you is cloaked.

EDIT: As well as the Barneys who can use heal with their BMGs on Shadow War participants, and not be hurt themselves.

If it was true open-world pvp I would be able to shoot that Barney. Yes your solution would work, to a point. I thought of that prior to posting.
What happens when the Shadow War is full?

[Chemikz]

I never said anything about NPCs. I like them too. Rescues are great, makes the SF Shadow War great. (The NPC enemies are combatants in my eyes, as I can shoot them and they can shoot me.)

My only issue are the players that are not in the shadow war. Some of them are just trying to watch. Others are being Barneys and running around acting like they are shooting you and then when someone actually comes along and starts shooting you it becomes hard to tell which is which, especially if the person shooting you is cloaked.

If it was true open-world pvp I would be able to shoot that Barney. Yes your solution would work, to a point. I thought of that prior to posting. What happens when the Shadow War is full?

Yeah man I know I was just replying to some other comments in this thread. I wouldn't want them to turn invisible to all PvPers as when an arkfall or emergency spawns you need to be able to see if people are taking care of it or if not you have to (If you're defending a base.) Plus it'd be a massive hit for immersion.

If Shadow War was full then that's fine, the area wide tag for PvP solution would still work. As Arsenic Touch added, everyone who isn't in a shadow war team is tagged for PvP but are neutral. They don't show as hostile on the map and they can't capture bases, but they can be killed and they can kill you.

I guess it could be exploited by having your friends help you defend a base, but they'd get no credit from it and that's just how shadow war goes anyway so no big deal.

[chrismeyer34]

I never said anything about NPCs. I like them too. Rescues are great, makes the SF Shadow War great. (The NPC enemies are combatants in my eyes, as I can shoot them and they can shoot me.)

My only issue are the players that are not participants in the Shadow War. Some of them are just trying to watch. Others are being Barneys and running around acting like they are shooting you. When someone actually comes along and starts shooting you it becomes hard to tell which is which, especially if the person shooting you is cloaked.

If it was true open-world pvp I would be able to shoot that Barney. Yes your solution would work, to a point. I thought of that prior to posting. What happens when the Shadow War is full?

i agree that would be kinda cool, but as someon who doesnt pvp much it really suck having to drive through a shadow war area to get where im going and get pegged just cuz i was in the wrong place, making non-conmbatants invisible would work, would force them to have to participate in something they dont want to be in...i didnt know non-combatants can lure mobs into a shadow war, that would seem kinda cheesy to do that but could add an interesting element to pvp lol

[Zabuza]

i didnt know non-combatants can lure mobs into a shadow war, that would seem kinda cheesy to do that but could add an interesting element to pvp lol

There are too many ways to troll shadow wars right now... I'm just addressing the primary issue, that would end all the rest.

I am not going into detail on the other ways. I'm sure people would start doing them much more than they already are now, if they knew.

[chrismeyer34]

There are too many ways to troll shadow wars right now... I'm just addressing the primary issue, that would end all the rest.

I am not going into detail on the other ways. I'm sure people would start doing them much more than they already are now, if they knew.

very true, i just dont want to get killed just cuz im traveling from 1 spot to another lol, but for the barneys, id say the moment they shoot at a player, they just made themselvs part of the shadow war, but for those who dont fire a single shot, let them be lol

[HELL MAMA]

guys i think that was the point of shadow wars,to be where everything else is. to have that extra bit of extra stuff to deal with.

unlike the rest of pvp you are out in the open with everyone else. i dont pvp but i do like to see you guys in the shadow wars and watch what you are doing. i try not to be in anyones way i stand back on top of something to see someone get killed.