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    Quote Originally Posted by SensaiDoom View Post
    Xbox player here, it is more difficult to get a good aim on them than on pc...and since infectors kill me in about 3 secs, I'm not sure their dps is that bad.
    Second that. I'm one of the players who likes to run around the target and slap them in the back of the head. I tried jumping relentlessly once and only felt as much of a moron as the jumper who first jumped forcing me to jump to the act of jumping.

    Forcking boing boing boing boing with an auto targeting homing nutsack gun, a bmg and [**** THE BED] .. cloak. Zero skill required to play a build like that and yet so many people proudly hop around the map running THAT BUILD.

    Back to bunny hopping - don't feel pressured into doing it too, just get used to predicting where their silly feet will next hit the ground/head will hit the apex of the airborne arc and you just got yourself a kill.

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    guess these nubs never played halo...THEY WILL NOT REMOVE/GIMP/NERF hopping..WONT HAPPEN..put your big boy pants on and suck it up...

    you cant target enemies cause there jumping you say??? its called target practice...get BETTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Envy View Post
    reading the comments. The majority of you are lacking in the IQ department.. Autistic or idiots?

    OP- nothing wrong with bunny hopping. yes, its moronic and use to be useful way back when hit boxes lagged like crazy.. And seeing this game has hit box lag unseen since golden eye for the snes. People are going to do it till they fix their game.

    Bottom line; trash mechanics; They horribly rushed this game...
    I do not see any proof behind your claims here. If I am going to be diagnosed with autism from a professional such as yourself, please enlighten me by explaining what led you to this conclusion. I am ever so curious, my friend.

    Also, I have failed to notice the horrible hitboxes in this game. With snipers, possibly, but with other weapons such as my LMG... No. Please provide proof to back up with wild claim. The game is broken, but the gunplay at the core is fine to a certain extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notturno View Post
    It's not bunny hopping, let's get that out of the way.

    Bunny hopping in a game is when you jump for the purpose of moving faster. It's done because the acceleration of jumping and crouching in a zigzag pattern causes you to move faster, and makes you a smaller target. The point is that you ultimately move faster, and create a harder to hit target. Here's a quick video that shows what bunny hopping is.

    Please note, Defiance does not have bunny hopping.

    What you are describing is people simply spamming the jump button because they think it makes them more evasive. The fact of the matter is that jumping simply makes you more predictable and easier to hit. The better PvPers I have come across tend to run around their targets in circles at close range, and pivot often to confuse them. Arguably the best way to "juke" while in close range combat is to move around your target and not in front of them. Force them to turn and adjust their aim, then pivot so they cannot have a smooth mouse movement to track you. Jumping just makes you move in a predictable vertical pattern, and you're much easier to track.

    That's not to say jumping doesn't have strategic advantages. Jumping over someone's head is a great way to disrupt aiming, as is jumping on a pivot. There's also the fact that you need to jump over obstacles in the PvP maps, and on to ladders.

    If you can't hit a jumping target, then I do not know what to tell you. It's part of the game, and a legitimate evasion strategy. Movement and positioning is a staple of the shooter genre, it means just as much as aiming. However, the game does not need to have jumping removed or neutered simply because people want a homogenized, boring experience. I'd rather not remove features that distinguish great players from average players. If people simply stood and fired at each other, like some sort of ridiculous line formation, this game would become stale fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Envy View Post
    reading the comments. The majority of you are lacking in the IQ department.. Autistic or idiots?

    OP- nothing wrong with bunny hopping. yes, its moronic and use to be useful way back when hit boxes lagged like crazy.. And seeing this game has hit box lag unseen since golden eye for the snes. People are going to do it till they fix their game.

    Bottom line; trash mechanics; They horribly rushed this game...
    Quote Originally Posted by Envy View Post
    infectors users = tiny tiny nuts.. Who are doomed to have every gf they ever get cheat on them.. Seriously if you're that much of a ***** in a game, imagine that scrub in real life.

    Yeah, they need to fix this crap.
    And we're autistic.

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    I hate bunny hoppers...which is why I do it all the time now.

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    this games going to die because of pvp anyways cant wait till cloak and infector is finally nerfed and the *****ing about other ego powers and weapons begin and the nerfs for the those start rolling out. Pve will officially be completely destroyed and the game will die out.
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    lame thread, i love ppl who bunnyhop, they are easier to kill then ppl who strafe worth and back alot, what they should fix is the damn matchmaking, for some reason i always end up with the worst players the game can possibly find, last night i dident won a single game in freight yard coz ppl dont know how to play and suck so ****ing much.

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    Yes sometimes I wonder how long it will take people to figure out we dont need half the team at one base...

    Bunny hopping makes me laugh it shouldnt be removed, its easy if you learn the games timing also find a buddy with (or your own) trapper spanner its extremly effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    ISTJ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISTJ

    Inb4 reification fallacy. Being semi-facetious.
    I understood some of these words.

    I wasn't meaning to present my above post as absolute fact, but merely some of my own personal thoughts. I figure there's some useful information in the suggestions, that's all. Though I still feel that removing options from PvP (IE: jump cooldowns) simply reduces options and creates a more boring experience as a result. Not to insinuate this is factual, but I really don't think jump cooldowns are the way to go in terms of drawbacks. A more sensible direction would be to increase reticle spread when jumping, in my opinion.
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