Bypassing Nim

[basis]

I agree that BMG and/or Infectors can make this fight easier, since they both do a lot of the aiming for you. I disagree about the high cap shield though; fast shield regen trumps high capacity in this fight. You want one that's going to regen quickly when you duck behind a pillar to heal.

You kind of missed the point of the high capacity shield with a BMG. You can simply heal yourself to regen the shield whenever needed. So it's a high capacity AND fast regen while using a BMG.

I feel for you guys that are having problems, but for the majority of people this fight isn't that hard, specially when you spec for it. So please stop trying to have things nerfed that don't need it.

If trion were to nerf this fight then that means any new DLC fights will have to be nerfed also, because a small minority of players have problems. That's not exactly fair when a lot of people like a challenge.

[Unsent Soul]

Don't let the humblebraggers get you down. Nim IS very hard. In fact, he IS too hard; too overtuned. Quite a few of us have given feedback on that.

This is hilarious... Nim is not "very" hard or "too" hard. If people stopped making excuses and just did it we wouldn't have threads like these. If he's hard for you then YOU are obviously doing something wrong, it's not the games fault the end guy isn't a cake walk.

[TheMilkman]

if you are getting some video lag it sucks to be you. My brother had a problem with him cause of his ****ty video card and had so much lag that he would die. So i let him use my computer and beat him no problem cause of no lag issue i hope that is what your problem is cause he is really not that hard to kill.

[IAMREALITY]

Bring these 3 weapons with you to nim: A clustershot, an FRC Saw, and a BMG. Always have the BMG as your secondary. For the first round with nim, clustershot the **** out of him! You don't need to be overly accurate. Just keep your finger on the trigger and follow him around best you can. Remember to roll, a lot! And also walk backwards more than you turn around. But with a little patience you will get past the first part fairly easily with the clustershot (and overcharge!). Also, remember your bmg. Always be ready to use it. When you do, you don't always have to heal all the way. Just hold down the trigger enough to get your shield started a little then switch back to your weapon. Oh, also, ALWAYS hit x to reload just before switching to your other weapon. You don't have to wait for it to charge since it charges in your pocket, but you always want it at the ready.

For the 2nd and 3rd rounds switch to the FRC Saw. Big clip and you can just keep unloading. For the 2nd stage, my advice is to run straight to where the duplicates are and start blasting away. You want to go after them, keep shooting, and eventually you'll find the right one that is nim. Then unload! As soon as it starts again, run to the area they spawn and start blasting away. Rinse and repeat. It really doesn't have to be that hard, just keep moving around and going after the copies as quick as you can, and hold down the trigger of that saw! When he takes the breaks and starts talking, shoot quickly at whichever one you choose to see if you can get lucky with the right one. If you get him and he falls down, overcharge and shoot the **** out of him! Otherwise, no biggie. Just go to the ammo, reload, and use the bmg to heal from the slash things he fires (you'll have time to heal before the copies start again). Then go back after the copies etc.

On the third stage, just go after him with that saw and overcharge. As soon as he's about to do an attack, run behind a pillar so that the pillar blocks it! With a little practice it becomes easy. Don't wait too long. Always be looking to put a pillar between you and him. As soon as his attack is done, unload with the saw. Dodge when necessary, always be ready with the BMG to heal, and get those pillars inbetween you! With a little patience you'll be through it in no time. Just take your time, unload with the saw, heal with the bmg, and he'll be yours!

[MrRotten]

Here's how I did it... and make no mistake, he was tough the first time around at lower EGO Rankings, now he's not so bad that I'm nearing 2000 EGO Rank. (I'm going to be fighting him now for the 4th time as I've repeated main mission line 4 times through my 2000 ranks.)

CLOAK: I highly recommend you should be CLOAKER. Simply because it buys you time, buys you time to reload if need be, buys you time if you're health is low and you need to breathe. Sometimes when he goes into his berserk mode, it's rough on the fingers rolling and running... Cloak saves you... Don't use it unless you absolutely NEED it tho...

WEAPONS:
First Phase - Fast Firing Rates, SMG for me worked best, but a powerful Saw or Combat rifle might work.
Second Phase - A Grenade Launcher, an Auto Lobber, something like that. Just keep your distance, and lob away. Kill all the clones, and when that happens and he jumps up to the top and all the clones, switch to your SMG/Saw and kill the clones on the ledges. Clear away a Corner so you can hide behind one of the pillars when the explosion comes you won't take damage.
Third Phase - Anything Damaging, a Saw, Combat Shotty, and just use the Spire in the middle of the room and keep that between you and him. When he is standing still, unload on him, when he jumps up to shoot the blast, get behind the spire and let the spire shield you.

SHIELD: The thing I found fantastic wasn't a HIGH Capacity Shield, it was a Shield with 2 to 3 Seconds of Recharge Delay or better. I don't care if the shield only has like 1100 Capacity, if it has 2 or 3 Second Recharge Delay and a 10%+ Recharge Rate, that's golden for this match. NIM talks alot of crap, he will attack, then stop and say something, and there'll be a pause between his attacks. Just keep your distance, Cloak to buy you time. Having this low of a Delay will be important!

PERKS: So again, I say be a CLOAKER, so you'll want stuff like Adding Duration to Cloak, and adding HPs (Fortitude), less damage (Cellular Armor), and other defensive minded Perks. Also the only Damaging Perk I took was the one that does extra damage when the enemy is moving towards you. NIM is constantly applying pressure, constantly moving towards you for the most part. The names of the perks escape me right now, but there you go.

Basically I took a few of those videos and adopted my own strategy...

Hope it helps!

Good luck!

[Biznatchio]

It's unfortunate that those who bellitle you by saying they beat him it's not that hard - had nothing productive to say or actually value the genuine ask that you intially started this post with.

Saying ..

"yo you suck and he is easy to beat. I was nekkid and beat him to death with a white rock that I picked up in the bunker and equiped with a Von Bach Industries shield, - you must really suxxor, yadda yaddah yaddah ..."

... doesn't help any towards giving you usuable input. That 's their attempt to foster community though - they just don't get it.


The best way maybe for you is to save about 30k and experiment trying diffrent approaches and learn from your mistikes.

This will be frustrating and time consuming but eventually you will have learned NIM's patterns in this fight mechanic and can anticipate what he will do next in certain parts of the stages. This will help you position yourself at times to do max damage if you know where to be when a certain attacks comes. That anticipation if you get it right a couple of times - does not have to be always (stuff happens) is what will give you a bit on an edge.


I used cloak and a saw, used any tank perks I had and anything that extended cloak and shortened its cool downs. He sees you in cloak but it your shield regenerates when you activate it.

Don't expect to be hitting him all the time- and if its between taking a shot and bringing your health back up, then bring your health back up first and wait for a new shot to happen.

Respark sheild with 2.8 to 3.00 sec recharge works well I use one with 1000 points and 2.8 recharge with him.


Honestly ...

Save some cash up 28-30k and slog along and do him using your own style. It will take longer but then you will have learned to own him using your own play style. If he is giving you trouble Set aside 2 hours if you have to or longer.

I agree he is a poorly setup fight for players. He really was irrelvant to the story line even with the two times he shows up - one where he throws Von bach from the bridge and then when you meet him as the boss fight. It was a poorly created very thin plot with no real lead up to him.

The fight mechanic is a joke as well.


Expect a few hours playing and failing before you get his mechanic down and can anticipate him. You will beat him in the end and I bet the next runs trhough with him will not take more than 20 minutes.


Think of this like the "safety dance" achievement in wow during Nax, if you played it.- It's that mind numbing and worse since you are forced to solo so there is no one to laugh with and moan with when you wipe.

[basis]

It's unfortunate that those who bellitle you by saying they beat him it's not that hard - had nothing productive to say or actually value the genuine ask that you intially started this post with.

Saying ..

"yo you suck and he is easy to beat. I was nekkid and beat him to death with a white rock that I picked up in the bunker and equiped with a Von Bach Industries shield, - you must really suxxor, yadda yaddah yaddah ..."

... doesn't help any towards giving you usuable input. That 's their attempt to foster community though - they just don't get it.


The best way maybe for you is to save about 30k and experiment trying diffrent approaches and learn from your mistikes.

This will be frustrating and time consuming but eventually you will have learned NIM's patterns in this fight mechanic and can anticipate what he will do next in certain parts of the stages. This will help you position yourself at times to do max damage if you know where to be when a certain attacks comes. That anticipation if you get it right a couple of times - does not have to be always (stuff happens) is what will give you a bit on an edge.


I used cloak and a saw, used any tank perks I had and anything that extended cloak and shortened its cool downs. He sees you in cloak but it your shield regenerates when you activate it.

Don't expect to be hitting him all the time- and if its between taking a shot and bringing your health back up, then bring your health back up first and wait for a new shot to happen.

Respark sheild with 2.8 to 3.00 sec recharge works well I use one with 1000 points and 2.8 recharge with him.


Honestly ...

Save some cash up 28-30k and slog along and do him using your own style. It will take longer but then you will have learned to own him using your own play style. If he is giving you trouble Set aside 2 hours if you have to or longer.

I agree he is a poorly setup fight for players. He really was irrelvant to the story line even with the two times he shows up - one where he throws Von bach from the bridge and then when you meet him as the boss fight. It was a poorly created very thin plot with no real lead up to him.

The fight mechanic is a joke as well.


Expect a few hours playing and failing before you get his mechanic down and can anticipate him. You will beat him in the end and I bet the next runs trhough with him will not take more than 20 minutes.


Think of this like the "safety dance" achievement in wow during Nax, if you played it.- It's that mind numbing and worse since you are forced to solo so there is no one to laugh with and moan with when you wipe.

Your whole post was more of a complaint than anything else. Most people were not tying to belittle the opening post. In fact multiple people told him the most proven "easiest" way of killing Nim. It's a BMG and a few perks. Thick skinned, fortitude and cellular armor. If you have more than 3 perks You can always add regeneration, and perks to increase your Ego skill. Personally i used Overcharge but Cloak is probably easier.

You on the other hand gave 0 information on how to beat him. You said, in a lot of words, Keep Trying.

[Biznatchio]

Your whole post was more of a complaint than anything else. Most people were not tying to belittle the opening post. In fact multiple people told him the most proven "easiest" way of killing Nim. It's a BMG and a few perks. Thick skinned, fortitude and cellular armor. If you have more than 3 perks You can always add regeneration, and perks to increase your Ego skill. Personally i used Overcharge but Cloak is probably easier.

You on the other hand gave 0 information on how to beat him. You said, in a lot of words, Keep Trying.

Equipment works to an extent then it comes down to muscle memory using repitition and actual memory use if you are not gifted at run and gun game play.

Player learning styles vary, just like all learner styles do and some need more than text based instruction to get it or a video that has audio. They just have to do it.

I suspect this maybe a person who learns best by doing- could be wrong but it seems that way given the frustration he posted about.

[doublej45]

Boring and easy way is BMG throughout the whole fight. Get a high cap shield and thats basicly it

Fun way is Infector gotta love those bugs.

-M

He's right. This is how I had to do it. It takes a bit longer to do, but works. I was also using a shield with 25% health regeneration.

[Jackobite]

This is hilarious... Nim is not "very" hard or "too" hard. If people stopped making excuses and just did it we wouldn't have threads like these. If he's hard for you then YOU are obviously doing something wrong, it's not the games fault the end guy isn't a cake walk.

If someone cant do him for 2 weeks isnt it in fact too hard/very hard (for him?)
and no its not the games fault, but the guys paid for the game doesnt he have as much right as anyone to air his thoughts on difficulty of a mission?