so i cant reach the level cap without pvp?

[AngryFire]

I am at 4482 ego.. I have about 270 ego I could get from weapon and vehicle leveling. I only have one PvE pursuit to complete (the one requiring PvP, Ego Evolution 6, I wish they would remove that requirement).

So yeah, I wont be able to achieve 5000 without completing PvP pursuits. I am not that great at PvP and the current state of PvP just makes it too aggravating for me to even try. Hoping that DLC adds more content to further advance my char

[duction]

I'm a way off 5000 but I'm going to do it

I have 50 hours left to complete of pvp and to reach ego 4000.

I'm 3/4 the way thru the 50 hours... Can't wait to get it

[AmnesiaHaze]

well, this is a big disappointment for me , i thought in a open world MMO you could decide on your own how to level up , instead i'm being forced to play a mode i dont enjoy even slightly , after i stop levelling up i probably rather quit playing than forcing myself to play that bad pvp

[IGears]

well, this is a big disappointment for me , i thought in a open world MMO you could decide on your own how to level up , instead i'm being forced to play a mode i dont enjoy even slightly , after i stop levelling up i probably rather quit playing than forcing myself to play that bad pvp

Trion calls the PvP the 'End Game'

[AmnesiaHaze]

Trion calls the PvP the 'End Game'

when i play it i get the urge to "quit game" lol

[NicodemusTNT]

Defiance PvP can be frustrating, but it isn't as bad as people are saying. I have fun more than half the time, which is more than I can say for Halo 4. Occasionally I get in a game where nothing seems to go right, but in general I can adapt. One major problem is the hit box size for headshots, but the overall concept is good. The main reason I'm saying this is that if you want all the pursuits, the PvP is doable and not agonizing. Go for it. If you can get gold in the driving and minigame pursuits, PvP can't be that bad you. If you get tired of Deathmatch or the unresolved issues with Freight Yard, grind your hours and kills in Shadow Wars.

And yes, I'm forced to carry Shotgun & Rocket Launcher and use Cloak, as well as considering a switch to the Immunizer on Freight Yard. It is too hard to aim in this game's PvP. I hope for some minor tweaks to make the other weapons viable.

[AmnesiaHaze]

im not saying too bad , i believe you that you enjoy it , im just very upset because id rather spend the time playing coop etc. and level up

[greatdividers]

think of how much worse it would be if a pvp-only player wanted to get to ego 5000...

[hagndaz]

To answer your question; You will have to do every single multiplayer pursuit except 'Climbing the Rank of Echelon IV' in order to hit the ego cap of 5000 (breakdown below).

You won't hit the 5000 ego rating cap unless you're very determined and are willing to put in a LOT of hours of mindless, boring grinding to complete every single thing required to get there.
There is very, very little room to leave things out at this point.

We'll have to see what happens with the upcoming DLC's. If they add more pursuits and/or other ways to gain ego, but won't raise the 5000 ego cap then at some point perhaps a fair amount of players will get the ego cap.

As it is the ego cap will only be reached by very few, highly dedicated players.


Here's the breakdown:

Ego from xp/leveling up: 2600 max
Once you've leveled up 260 times you will stop gaining xp and thus won't be able to get further Ego rating from leveling/xp.

Ego from weapon skill: 988 max
13 weapon types, 4 ego points per level up, 19 level ups per weapon type (start at level 1, max level 20) => 13x4x19=988 ego rating from weapon skills.

Ego from vehicle skills: 228 max
3 vehicles, 4 ego points per level up, 19 level ups per vehicle (start at level 1, max level 20) => 3x4x19=228 ego rating from vehicle skills.

Max total ego rating so far: 3816 (2600+988+228)

Once you've hit the xp cap and have maxed out all skills (weapons+vehicles) you will have 3816 ego rating. This means you will still need 1184 ego (5000-3816) from pursuits to hit the 5000 cap.

Ego rating from Episode pursuits: 20 max
4 episode pursuits, 5 ego each.
Pretty sure there were 5 at some point (6 even, but #6 could not be completed and was removed if I'm not mistaken). So possibly for those who did 5 before it was removed, the max from episodes at this point would be 25 (or 30 at best).

Ego rating from Season 1 pursuits: 1200 max

As we still needed 1184 from pursuits and all pursuits combined give 1220 (1225-1230 if we count the episode pursuits that are no longer obtainable), you can miss out on 36 (1220-1184) ego rating worth of pursuits. Or 46 at best counting the 5 or 10 from the episode pursuits that are no longer available.

'Climbing the ranks of Echelon IV' gives 40 ego rating. Not completing any of the other multiplayer pursuits will mean you will miss out on at least 40+15=55 ego rating and thus you will fall short of 5000. The only way to get 5000 ego rating without completing all multiplayer pursuits is to finish all multiplayer pursuits except the 50 hours of competitive multiplayer to complete 'Climbing the rank of Echelon IV'.

Awesome breakdown, but you also get EGO from completing co-op maps, so you could make up the gap with lots of co-op.

[AmnesiaHaze]

Awesome breakdown, but you also get EGO from completing co-op maps, so you could make up the gap with lots of co-op.

nope , those are part of the season one 1200 , but the solution may be coming with more episodes ,and/or new proficiencies for charge blades