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    Pre or post Buckshot, my favorite shottie has always been the FRC Heavy Auto-scattergun (slugthrower). Mount a +falloff barrel and the hipfire sight and you're golden; that thing just crushes especially if you've got combat shotties maxed out.

    You will need to know how to aim though.

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    I love the VBI Shotguns, I just wish they didn't look like toys. And even though their damage didn't get nerfed like the other shotguns, the clip capacity bonuses really hurt them.

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    I've been using the VOT Fragger since the beginning. Liked it more than the Auto-Fragger even pre-nerf. Although since I got the Blaster Rifle from a mission I've mostly been using that as a close-range weapon, and it's fun as hell. It's the one that does only 40 dmg per shot but it shoots 3 bullets per round and has a very fast fire rate. The problem is that you can't use another rifle as your longer-range weapon in your loadout because you'll run out of ammo quickly, so I'm actually using a pistol for that.

    I never seemed to do much damage with the grenade shotty, but I can see the appeal of one with syphon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrin Nightbringer View Post
    This is just me being honest, in my opinion- take it for what it's worth.

    There is no useful shotgun anymore. I can do more damage, more effectively, with almost any other weapon since this nerf.

    I used to LOVE VOT Fraggers and Auto-Fraggers. The lack of ammo coupled with the way mobs are grouped makes these weapons a hindrance now.

    If they wanted to nerf this for PvP, they should have just done it- they added to the pistol ammo pool for PvP only in a previous patch; why couldn't they nerf the shotgun ammo capacity for PvP only? Makes no sense. Poor balancing.

    So, now I switched guns, and await their next terrible idea of "balance".
    Just before patch I really started spending some real time with PVP and I enjoy it. I didn’t see how shotties where OP as much as many weapons simply aren’t as good/easy to use. It’s an old complaint from the same old PVPers. I agree completely that PVP balances should not negatively affect PVE. PVP is such a small % of content that it doesn’t make since to nerf an entire weapon class for the entire game. Defiance has enough problems without catering to PVP centric players who think this is CoD and ruining the majority of content for everyone else. And as you said..we just wait for the next “balance” as people just move to the next most effective wep/spec and that one starts getting the complaints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrin Nightbringer View Post
    This is just me being honest, in my opinion- take it for what it's worth.

    There is no useful shotgun anymore. I can do more damage, more effectively, with almost any other weapon since this nerf.

    I used to LOVE VOT Fraggers and Auto-Fraggers. The lack of ammo coupled with the way mobs are grouped makes these weapons a hindrance now.

    If they wanted to nerf this for PvP, they should have just done it- they added to the pistol ammo pool for PvP only in a previous patch; why couldn't they nerf the shotgun ammo capacity for PvP only? Makes no sense. Poor balancing.

    So, now I switched guns, and await their next terrible idea of "balance".
    Yeah, this is my take on it too. I just don't use shotguns anymore. My orange TACC combat shotgun with +9 mag bonus and a 1.40 blue mag mod went from 32 rounds to 16 rounds after patch. I like how they magically converted my 1.40 mag mod into a 1.10 mag mod also. Can I at least get my original blue mod back so I can vendor it?

    Sawed offs were terrible for PvE before patch, now they are just unplayable...you will do more dps with a BMG.

    Can't comment on pump shotguns, I don't have any good ones to try right now. Maybe they are ok still.

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    I've completely abandoned shotguns since the patch. Used to love the VOT auto-fraggers, now they blow.

    I'm sticking with my AR/Infector combo and LMG/Infector or pistol for secondary.

    Maybe they will realize that no one is using shotguns anymore and fix them for pve at least.
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    VBI Auto Shotgun and VBI CS-X.

    If God had meant me to use something else - He wouldn't have made these possible.
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    Some of them, on occasion, people have agreed with.
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