Infectors WAAAAAAAAY OVERPOWERED

[Dave Blackwell]

Wait a minute.. I thought shotguns were overpowered. Do you mean to tell me that there's ANOTHER weapon that's now OP? Who'd have thought...

and this my friends is why 'nerfing' weapons does not fix a non existent 'balance' problem, it only moves the majority to another effective weapon - until of course that gets 'nerfed' which, obviously, leads the majority to another and another and you guessed yet another weapon. I would like to take the time to thank each and every one of you who have cried and will continue to cry over this issue for essentially dumbing the game down to the point where nothing will eventually have an advantage over anything.

[Lupis Volk]

In defiance Nerfing pisses off the people who only PvE. why do we get screwed because one weapon is over used in PvP?

[Firetalion]

Huh. I just thought they were annoying to use myself. And they already have been nurfed once... not to mention it usually bothers me about as much as fire weapons do in PvP, which is not much at all. I don't see them over-killing me.

Although I must admit what is really annoying is when it kills your cloak, haha.

[SensaiDoom]

Wait a minute.. I thought shotguns were overpowered. Do you mean to tell me that there's ANOTHER weapon that's now OP? Who'd have thought...

and this my friends is why 'nerfing' weapons does not fix a non existent 'balance' problem, it only moves the majority to another effective weapon - until of course that gets 'nerfed' which, obviously, leads the majority to another and another and you guessed yet another weapon. I would like to take the time to thank each and every one of you who have cried and will continue to cry over this issue for essentially dumbing the game down to the point where nothing will eventually have an advantage over anything.

The re-introduction of freight yard means a lot more people are playing a large PvP map. The previous maps suited the close quarters shotguns, which combined with cloak was very powerful. Now the 40-48m auto tracking immunizers are causing issues, as the map is bigger.

It is pretty insane that a gun that requires minimal aim, and is effective up to 48 metres, is in this games PvP.

[Adrena Chrome]

yes they used to be a nice offset. I hated bug guns before. But now that they took my shotty I guess I'm jealous of the bug shooter. I can get just as many kills invader cloak as shotty cloak. Actually I die less now. The invader is superior to my prenerf shotty. But i never complained b4. I just don't like using it. I don't die from it. I think that is where we are going wrong here. People don't understand. I'm not mad cause I got killed bye it. I don't like the weapon. Period.

Must be a cloak/shotgun user. Infectors/decoy are the most easy cloak/shotgun counter. go play CoD if you want truly unbalanced guns.

[Lupis Volk]

The re-introduction of freight yard means a lot more people are playing a large PvP map. The previous maps suited the close quarters shotguns, which combined with cloak was very powerful. Now the 40-48m auto tracking immunizers are causing issues, as the map is bigger.

It is pretty insane that a gun that requires minimal aim, and is effective up to 48 metres, is in this games PvP.

How about CoD:BL2 with a scope that would highlight the other team in red boxes when they came into your view. Or Ghost Recon: FS and their auto aim bullet for their sniper class.

[Dave Blackwell]

The re-introduction of freight yard means a lot more people are playing a large PvP map. The previous maps suited the close quarters shotguns, which combined with cloak was very powerful. Now the 40-48m auto tracking immunizers are causing issues, as the map is bigger.

It is pretty insane that a gun that requires minimal aim, and is effective up to 48 metres, is in this games PvP.

That doesn't sound like an issue to me at all, it sounds more to me like a weapon that is useful within that map. Just those who are hellbent on using prefered weapons/perks over the ones that would be the most effective for the given situation are moaning that certain weapons and what not are overpowered just because they got bested by a more effective set up.

As much as I hate to say it for this game. Defiance isn't a use whatever you want and come out top sort of game. The PvE aspect of it.. eh, I'd be 50/50 on that statement in regards to that side of the game. But PvP? Use what's the most effective, not what you prefer - if you really care that much about winning, that is.

Still, if what I said has rustled a few PvP'ers then by all means Trion can make everything equal on the Pvp side of the game and leave PvE alone. Hold on.. if everything is equal, how can I outgun someone?

Nerfing weapons is a dumb move and only those who can't think outside the box resort to crying 'OP! NERF IT NOW!'.

[RenegadeGamer]

Ok i know there are prabobly many more threads like this one.. Infectors are in serious need of a good nerf.. first of all they hit u from like half way across the freaking universe and they kill u in like 3 secs, and on top of that you dont even really need to aim. The homing range for tht weapon serious need to be cut in half. Atleast with the shotgun your oppnent actaully have to sneak up on you and to get kill, with infector ppl just spray, "no skill" "no aim" and gets kills like wth... and whats even the point of a sniper rifle if ppl have those OP infector.... that thing is bacially a homing automatic sniper rifle with the power of a SAW.. it ruins PvP and yes i used it i went 15/0 before i was killed, its no fun to even get kills with and its ruining PvP.... for me atleast

The Cankers,Invaders,Vot Afflictors,Vot Infectors all have a homing range of 10-20 mostly 10. You do have to get fairly close with most infectors to hit your intended target. If your getting hit from long range its an Immunizer it has a homing range of 40 they do not need to be nerfed, the Immunizers are called Anti-Snipers for a reason read the description. Immunizers were made to counter sniping, perhaps snipers should be nerfed too. Most infectors only do 1-5 damage per shot its the d.o.t. thats deadly which can be countered. I dont die in PVP everytime someone uses an infector on me. You need to ask yourself if maybe whoever is killing you is just good at the game,maybe that person is better than you and perhaps its not the weapon itself. You do have to actually aim properly to hit your target I know because I use infectors in pve a lot. Everytime someone gets killed by weapons in this game they complain about how they are o.p. and need to be nerfed. Like one guy said in his reply in this thread-challenge yourself find away to counter it. No one hardly used infectors until the shottys got nerfed. If they nerf the Infectors people will learn to use something else and the crying will continue there are so many weapons,perks and skills to be combined and utilized in this game yet everyone wants the lazy way out and just cries for trion to nerf it. Take the time to learn the right combination of weapons, perks and ego power that works best for you and makes you deadly. I personally use LMG Saws, Assault Rifles and SMGs in PVP so if you get killed by those weapons a lot are you going to say those need to be nerfed too?

[fang1192]

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[Aztrial]

Must be a cloak/shotgun user. Infectors/decoy are the most easy cloak/shotgun counter. go play CoD if you want truly unbalanced guns.

Lol yeah i cant lie i am, but im also like my AR with the scope, close range is my storng point, Infectors are still OP though. and dont misunderstand im not ur avarange shotgun/cloak noob i in deathmatch my main is shotgun capture and hold im most AR & LMG plus shotties were nerfed bad so it tkes abit of skill if u want to go head to head with more then 1 person everyshot have to count or ur dead.