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    The hilariously low population says otherwise. There's no saving this title. The damage is already done. Best Trion can do is pray this failure doesn't put them in the poor house and next time, don't attach a "MMO" title to an obvious single player driven game.

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    I find the potential to be amazing.

    I am however VERY dissapointed by how slow Trion is with the patches.

    Still, having a blast in this game.
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    The PvP in this game is great.... few aspects that need adjusting (explosives/infectors) But the game play is solid. Takes skill not the first person to shoot someone once wins BS.. God, the COD serious ruined the FPS market/community... Wheres the good'o days of quake and enemy territory where you shooting me in the back would just force me to do a 180 and wreck you with headshots.. Skill based fps has been dead for awhile and looks like this game is trying to bring it back : D

    PvE is solid.. So why so many doomsday buffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Envy View Post
    The PvP in this game is great.... few aspects that need adjusting (explosives/infectors) But the game play is solid. Takes skill not the first person to shoot someone once wins BS.. God, the COD serious ruined the FPS market/community... Wheres the good'o days of quake and enemy territory where you shooting me in the back would just force me to do a 180 and wreck you with headshots.. Skill based fps has been dead for awhile and looks like this game is trying to bring it back : D

    PvE is solid.. So why so many doomsday buffs?

    There's always people like this, even in successful games is all. I don't know, maybe it's the cool thing to do nowadays. I really don't care, I already got my money's worth out of the game, anything more is just gravy for me. Just pretend they're not there and disregard troll-ish or negative posts in general, works great for me!

    That said, yeah. Glad skill-based shooters are slowly making a comeback. Or at least TRYING to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erudai Syraln View Post
    There's always people like this, even in successful games is all. I don't know, maybe it's the cool thing to do nowadays. I really don't care, I already got my money's worth out of the game, anything more is just gravy for me. Just pretend they're not there and disregard troll-ish or negative posts in general, works great for me!

    That said, yeah. Glad skill-based shooters are slowly making a comeback. Or at least TRYING to.
    Well I understand difficulty is relative, but it absolutely took me no skill what so ever to do anything in Defiance.

    Lets see, jump, roll, shoot, reload right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daholic View Post
    Well I understand difficulty is relative, but it absolutely took me no skill what so ever to do anything in Defiance.

    Lets see, jump, roll, shoot, reload right?
    How is that different from any other shooter? I mean seriously, they are all the same, just different skins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myria View Post
    As they say, you only get one chance to make a first impression and with Defiance Trion blew that bigtime.
    Anarchy Online had the worst start of any MMO, hell video game, possibly product ever produced. Was literally unplayable. As in you could do NOTHING.. ZERO ... maaaybe walk a few feet. And 12 years later the game is still going strong, has reportedly something like 400,000 subscribers and probably three times that in F2P players.. myself included. That may not sound like big numbers compared to WOW, but for a 12 year old product, that's pretty damn impressive. On top of that, the game still gets good reviews with each new expansion.

    My point, a bad start doesn't kill a game, nor does it mean it will be shut down soon. Companies can turn it around if they try, and you can't say Trion without Try. Okay.. that was cheesy... but I really feel they are making a good effort and we can only see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shada Mori View Post
    Anarchy Online had the worst start of any MMO, hell video game, possibly product ever produced. Was literally unplayable.
    Quite honestly if AO and STO are people's idea of a success then I guess Defiance is doing great.

    Neither, however, are games I've typically heard mentioned in the same breath as "success".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myria View Post
    Quite honestly if AO and STO are people's idea of a success then I guess Defiance is doing great.

    Neither, however, are games I've typically heard mentioned in the same breath as "success".
    Then what do you call a success? And name one that didn't launch without issues.

    I would hardly call STO a failure either. It's done well, has a strong player base and has evolved a lot since it's initial launch. A game doesn't need to have the biggest sales or the highest player base to be a success; it just needs to meet or exceed the developers own metrics for what they deem a success.

    If people don't like a game then why stay around? It makes zero sense.. just go and play one of the other amazingly awesome games that everyone tries to compare Defiance against and says it must be like.

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    I call Defiance a stepping stone to Destiny. Nothing more.
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