Is multiplayer really like this?

[Gratty]

So if you are at the top of these matches then whats the issue?

Well running into 5 people all using immunizers and focusing fire on you is a rather large nuisance. There is no legitimate reasoning as to why it would be okay for that to happen. it happens to me quite often. I honestly got over how ridiculous the cloak is in this game. It got to the point where I love hunting for those damned cloakers, and they all get a nice t-bag when I am done with them. It is how I vent my anger.

[Intense]

Well running into 5 people all using immunizers and focusing fire on you is a rather large nuisance. There is no legitimate reasoning as to why it would be okay for that to happen. it happens to me quite often. I honestly got over how ridiculous the cloak is in this game. It got to the point where I love hunting for those damned cloakers, and they all get a nice t-bag when I am done with them. It is how I vent my anger.

Still dont see the issue if you are still in top three. You did better than everyone else except 2 people. 5 People focus firing on your with xxx there is very little chance for survival...

[Gratty]

Still dont see the issue if you are still in top three. You did better than everyone else except 2 people. 5 People focus firing on your with xxx there is very little chance for survival...

Try playing on consoles and you will experience my pain. Once you do so and you fail to experience what I have, then I will forever drop my argument.

[Nefarious]

Child mentality, I disagree so I must not PvP. I do PvP. However I can also accept the fact that other people are better than me. I dont come to the boards screaming that XXX is OP. I dont care if I'm at the top of the leaderboard or the bottom. I have fun competing against others. Most of the time when I die its because I did something stupid or they aim'd and fired faster than me big deal.

I point these things out for the sake of balance and better gameplay. What we have now is a few select things being used that out do and over shadow everything else. And that's a shame because the game has a lot more to offer then that but never gets the chance because these things are op'd and everyone uses them the moment they can.

[Intense]

Try playing on consoles and you will experience my pain. Once you do so and you fail to experience what I have, then I will forever drop my argument.

The fact you are getting top 3 proves that other setups are very much viable...

[Gratty]

The fact you are getting top 3 proves that other setups are very much viable...

Once again, play on my platform for a good period of time and see if you can experience my frustration. It is to my understanding that PC players do not share the same experience as the console players. I do not know, since I am not a console player. Different platforms = potentially different issues.

My consistency does not affect my issue with a specific weapon.

[Nefarious]

And if I remember this game is supposed to be skilled based an not determined by rolls or how buff your character might be.

Skill with the infector or cloak is non-existent. No tactics or thinking needed. And to top it off everyone is using these things. So with that we have sloppy PvP gameplay.

[greatdividers]

I point these things out for the sake of balance and better gameplay. What we have now is a few select things being used that out do and over shadow everything else. And that's a shame because the game has a lot more to offer then that but never gets the chance because these things are op'd and everyone uses them the moment they can.

again, have you ever played any pvp in other games? there will always be a few guns/loadouts that are stronger than everything else. unless you remove every single variable.

how many times must this be said before it sinks in....

[Nefarious]

again, have you ever played any pvp in other games? there will always be a few guns/loadouts that are stronger than everything else. unless you remove every single variable.

how many times must this be said before it sinks in....

Yeah I have played other games. But now Im playing Defiance. And I want it to be a happy place for all!

[greatdividers]

And if I remember this game is supposed to be skilled based an not determined by rolls or how buff your character might be.

Skill with the infector or cloak is non-existent. No tactics or thinking needed. And to top it off everyone is using these things. So with that we have sloppy PvP gameplay.

the game is skill based, any half-wit can see that. if it wasn't the people at the top of leaderboards wouldn't do so consistently.

better yet, if it's not skill based, go ahead and take a screenshot of you going 40+ kills 0 deaths in freight yard.