Please get a keyboard people / No talking or trading? What kind of MMO is this?

[uninhabitableheart]

OP is applying PC MMO logic to console MMO.

In FFXI you could tell who the console players were because they only talked in auto phrases. DCUO has plenty of trade spam but very little chat.

You're not.going to see a change to this unless an MMO offers mouse and keyboard controls and even then probably still a lot of people will jist use a controller. There is no comfortable place to put your keyboard when sitting on a couch.

Maybe he is, but he's got a point. I have a keyboard, which I rarely use because I expect no interaction. Now about the trading...

This game doesn't really have an "economy", so coming from games like WoW, the idea of trading with people is a bit ridiculous. I don't want to sit there with someone debating what's a "fair" trade, when no items have drop rates or anything to go by (the way farmed items do in a game like WoW - based on what common activities yield per hour versus drop rates, etc).

Here's an example of why it's as messed up as it is:

Let's say I make $75,000 a year working full time in an office, and let's say you make $4500 a year working part time at a local business. If you spend $20 on bits, buy lockboxes, and get 1 legendary and a huge amount of greens... what's the one legendary really worth TO YOU? Now let's say I haven't bought bits but I have been playing a couple hours a day for the last month and have only amassed say 50,000 scrip. I bet you that month of playing 2 hours every night (50,000 scrip) is worth just as much, if not more, to ME, as that legendary is TO YOU. So when you want 100,000 scrip for that Legendary you essentially bought with real world money, when in the real world your time is not worth (relatively speaking) as much as mine is on a quantifiable level... who's right? Who's wrong? No one. It's just totally subjective and my point is no items have any "value" at all, based on the the lack of consistent drop rates and the ability to gain items with real world money.

I'm open to some changes to loot tables/drop-rates and implementation of things like an Auction House, but I still like the game as it stands right now.

PS: I know my example is not perfect, so save yourself the time scrutinizing it to find a fault or 2, I'm sure there might be, but I hope everyone can get my general point.

[Thedjectivenoun]

I beg you guys, get keyboards. A full size wireless USB one is $15.

I'm tired of going from town to town and arkfall to arkfall and not only not getting any responses to what I ask/say, but I don't see people say anything. I'm tired of feeling like I'm playing with people who don't speak English. The fact that you can sit in town for a half hour and not see one thing said is ***ked up to me.

Mics are for clans/groups/friends that you plan on doing a lot of chatting/playing with, not for addressing a whole town/arkfall randomly. If they were, if they actually had the range of keyboards, I'd just get on my mic and I wouldn't be typing this right now. But they fail outside of clans/groups (also in other ways too). And honestly, imagine if every single person used a mic, and they worked really far away. Ya, that would be terrible.

Trion needs to do something too, like add chatrooms and trading posts. But in the mean time, you're playing an MMO, please come prepared, unless you honestly have no interest in socializing/trading. But I don't believe 95% of you don't want to talk/trade, I think it's just cuz you don't have a keyboard.

Think this is a Third Person Shooter first and MMO last. I think that is what was stated by an employee at Trion.

[DaMaJaDiZ]

I beg you guys, get keyboards. A full size wireless USB one is $15.

I'm tired of going from town to town and arkfall to arkfall and not only not getting any responses to what I ask/say, but I don't see people say anything. I'm tired of feeling like I'm playing with people who don't speak English. The fact that you can sit in town for a half hour and not see one thing said is ***ked up to me.

Mics are for clans/groups/friends that you plan on doing a lot of chatting/playing with, not for addressing a whole town/arkfall randomly. If they were, if they actually had the range of keyboards, I'd just get on my mic and I wouldn't be typing this right now. But they fail outside of clans/groups (also in other ways too). And honestly, imagine if every single person used a mic, and they worked really far away. Ya, that would be terrible.

Trion needs to do something too, like add chatrooms and trading posts. But in the mean time, you're playing an MMO, please come prepared, unless you honestly have no interest in socializing/trading. But I don't believe 95% of you don't want to talk/trade, I think it's just cuz you don't have a keyboard.

If you buy em in bulk, I'm sure that we'll put them to good use.

[Valkyrie Elsa]

I have my keyboard. Usually I yell KNEEL BEFORE ZOD after I get first in an Arkfall

[Bruhaha98]

I beg you guys, get keyboards. A full size wireless USB one is $15.

I'm tired of going from town to town and arkfall to arkfall and not only not getting any responses to what I ask/say, but I don't see people say anything. I'm tired of feeling like I'm playing with people who don't speak English. The fact that you can sit in town for a half hour and not see one thing said is ***ked up to me.

Mics are for clans/groups/friends that you plan on doing a lot of chatting/playing with, not for addressing a whole town/arkfall randomly. If they were, if they actually had the range of keyboards, I'd just get on my mic and I wouldn't be typing this right now. But they fail outside of clans/groups (also in other ways too). And honestly, imagine if every single person used a mic, and they worked really far away. Ya, that would be terrible.

Trion needs to do something too, like add chatrooms and trading posts. But in the mean time, you're playing an MMO, please come prepared, unless you honestly have no interest in socializing/trading. But I don't believe 95% of you don't want to talk/trade, I think it's just cuz you don't have a keyboard.

lol all this coming from someone who is named SILENT BOB........ rofl,, IRONY at its best!

[Black_Adder_]

OP really bugs me, people with mics and keyboards scare me.

[Shandri]

I have a keyboard but rearely use the chat because it's terrible. There's either the micro window where I simply miss 90% of what is being said if I am doing -anything- else...or the stupid ginormo overlay window that prevents anything but chat. I use a mic in clan chat...that's good enough for me. This game by design seems to be set up for social interaction in clan but not much elsewhere.

[SilentBob420BMFJ]

I agree i play on xbox i have a mic and use it to talk to my clan and friends that play if im not with them i keep it muted. I keep a keyboard right in front of me also kind of treat the xbox like PC where i am not sitting on a couch far away from it. I have tried countless times to try and get help from someone or asked a question and got no response. So its not just PS3 or Xbox alone its both people just wont seem to talk for some reason. Get with the program people this is an MMO TPS start talking make some new friends or just a trade buddy do it. i dare you all to type in the chat unless you are chicken. BAWK BAWK BAWK lol

This. Amen.

[SilentBob420BMFJ]

OK, I've seen this said a lot, and it makes me say WHAT?!

Apparently some of you honestly don't know where to put a keyboard? REALLY? So what's holding you back is a place to put your keyboard when you're not typing (I can come over and assist you if you live near me, we can figure out this complex problem together), and then it's even too big to place in your lap? So then the idea of a small laptop or tablet probably blows your mind?

I play reclined with pillows, on a couch, with a kind of crowded coffee table next to me, and I still do just fine. I set my controller aside and put the keyboard in my lap when I type. I'm not asking you guys to go from shooting a clip to chatting while you reload and then back to shooting, I'm talking about just trading etc. You don't need an official place for the keyboard (again, REALLY?). If you really struggle, get the overpriced one that you can connect to your controller.

But ya anyways, just having some fun there, but honestly some of you need to get keyboards. And by "some" I'm talking to the people who ever think "Eh, I'd say something but I'm lazy". You know what I'm talking about. Don't tell me 50 people all want to be silent in the same place, ya right.

Keyboards, it's why there's not much socializing. Also Trion, they're half the reason I won't deny.

[Krauser]

Speaking for myself, this is the first (and will probably be the last) MMO I've ever played. I'm an old school console guy, a lot of this is new to me and nothing is explained. I'd rather play the game than wander around having text conversations looking for someone to trade gear with, especially since I spend so much time selling or breaking down all the crap I pick up anyway. If you're into the online chatty stuff that's fine, but I'd guess a lot of people on the consoles aren't interested, keyboard or not.