Worst TV show in years.

[Drake Payne]

you haven't seen "breaking bad" now that is boring

worst Troll ever xD

[Zugo]

Out of those three outcomes none of them should have made him want to shoot a guy that has helped the town twice now or threaten to shoot a girl that he has raised as his own daughter.

I felt the entire scene was full of schtako!

This is how I felt as well.

[brandileigh]

Did you never see an episode of Craprica? Continuum? There are far worse out there lol

Aww I really like Continuum. Well actually I really like the kid in Continuum, most of the other characters could die and I wouldn't be hurt or anything haha.

[ironhands]

Aww I really like Continuum. Well actually I really like the kid in Continuum, most of the other characters could die and I wouldn't be hurt or anything haha.

There's only one redeeming quality common to both Continuum and Craprica; Magda Apanowicz. Makes me wanna move back to Vancouver lol

[Eltruism]

It's a good thing to develop to ability to not be critical, biased or opinionated when observing media. The entertainment and stimuli provided by it is just the fact that it is a new visual and emotional experience. Being critical, biased and opinionated about these things will ruin every experience.

Regardless, I enjoy the show every time I watch it, the only opinion I care to provide is that the climax and end of the show are too close together and it seems like they happen as the show begins.

[Indra Echo]

People been fed a steady stream of crap on tv for quite sometime now. If baby sci-fi gets people to watch it, it can act like a gateway drug to the good stuff

And I wouldn't call Lost Girl or Being Human science fiction, Continuum yes but to those guys no.

This is the thing here. I give SyFy some actual credit for at least not going all reality all the time like some other channels have-some that used to have intellectual shows on them or at least shows that taught me something by watching. It's just that the viewers are dumbing themselves down and show creators (especially reality) are going cheap. It's a lot cheaper to do Hillbilly Handfishin' than it is to create Continuum or Morgan Freeman's Through the Wormhole. Those reality shows that are unscripted are actually scripted by monkeys and many of them are being found to be frauds. But viewers don't care. Wanna see big bras, there's a tv show for that. Wanna see a large woman verbally abuse little girls and their idiot moms-there's a show for that. And people seem to get off on the train wrecks people are making of their lives.

If a show like Defiance succeeds it can lead to better things. It's a softcore SciFi show as opposed to the grittier Firefly which didn't make it. Just look at what happened with Star Wars (a movie that many hardcore SF people really didn't like that much)-because of its popularity other more science heavy SF movies came along for years. And Star Trek movies and new tv shows became possible.

I know Defiance isn't Star Wars, but don't overthink it. It isn't meant to be hardcore and wasn't really overly promoted as SF either. It was always shown as just stories taking place on an altered Earth. We're all too quick to have to label something in order to hate it when it doesn't fit our expectations of the label we placed on it. Just because Defiance is on the SyFy channel (never thought about why they changed their name), doesn't mean it's meant to be realistic hardcore science fiction. But at least it isn't Honey Boo Boo.

And Lost Girl is more like Fantasy with Being Human as the paranormal.

The unfortunate thing is that all of these things (SF, Fantasy, paranormal) get lumped together and are often respected far less by tv execs and even book publishers than some formulaic romance story. So, they don't like to spend a lot of money on them for elaborate sets and even topnotch writing. Even the first Star Trek series with its very low production values, cost too much money for the network.

[ironhands]

It's a softcore SciFi show as opposed to the grittier Firefly which didn't make it.

Firefly was totally softcore, there were no sciency bits at all, nobody ever tried to vent the warpcore manifolds or anything, the engines just broke, and then got fixed. The only real space-y bit that comes to mind was running out of air, everything else was classic action-tv, and could have been recreated in any setting, from what I recall.

[Wraieth]

lol i figured it out . With all the refrences to fire fly i know exactly what defiance needs.

More buffy and less castle 8)

[Barrik]

There seems to be some confusion in how people are viewing the programming. SyFy hasn't been dedicated to sci fi for years. There have been shows here or there for the sake of legitimacy. But their programming mirrors the viewing habits you'd find in the demo for ABC more than anything else. To put it bluntly, they aren't making shows for the science fiction fan. They make them for the "viewing" demographic.

This^^, a thousand times this. It's a drama with sci fi undertones mixed with some action. It's not really made for the "Firefly" audience that expects hard core sci fi. I enjoy the show, but I do think this last episode felt extremely clunky.

[fmarin83]

Honestly, I'm getting tired of seeing Kenya with someone else every single episode. I mean we all know what her business entails- do we really need to see it in every episode? I understand that it's a TV show and for some reason they need to have sexual scenes, but this is kind of overdoing it.

You are sad. All i want is to see shooting, betrayal, and Mia Kirschner half naked.