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    Quote Originally Posted by duction View Post
    you dont need a great internet connection for the xbox one, just some sort of connection you dont need fibre to play it lol. im glad they are doing this, they wont lose money through pirates and hackers. smart move. less money going into scumbags pockets,
    No, but they will lose the money of some of their loyal fans. Like people that have low income and can't afford internet, soldiers that take their consoles with them when they deploy; and what about families that like to travel and bring their consoles so their kids won't get bored?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray101492 View Post
    No, but they will lose the money of some of their loyal fans. Like people that have low income and can't afford internet, soldiers that take their consoles with them when they deploy; and what about families that like to travel and bring their consoles so their kids won't get bored?
    The military has already banned the Xbox One from being bought due to security reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskky View Post
    The military has already banned the Xbox One from being bought due to security reasons.
    You this really kills the whole nude kinect playing for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smith View Post
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    Microsoft paying ppl to say good things about the Xbone. Im sure sony and nintendo being the cash juggernauts they are have done this also, but it stings when your the only one getting caught lol...
    Do you not recall the 360? forums and chat rooms lit up with "word of mouth" about how great a system it was...., most were soo poorly done one could easily spot a writer vs. a average gamer.

    Aside from the aggressive campaign by "users" they also did several publications, citing it as the only system with parental control, progressive scan, so on and so forth.. despite the contrary. They aren't the first either when it comes to making up words or phrases as logo to use as a "selling point".

    cash juggernauts... haha.. well...... sony does do commercials.. but they don't soo heavily advertise or "hype" things up.. the reality is.. had they been more aggressive in their advertising, specifically by citing actual specs, statistics and such, people would be on board with their stuff. case in point, Betamax.. a format that would have had us in the high definition age much sooner, it was superior as a format compared to VHS.. but lack of advertisement on the tech development led to others (like the **** industry) choosing VHS).. Sony has a bad habit of thinking that their name alone will sell a product.. like their sh*t should never stink..

    as far as getting caught... anybody with even a modicum of rationale' would easily discover the advertisements of a company posing as a customer. the 360 customers simply lacked that rational mind set, and put stock into the rumors of high praise for a system that frankly, and evidently, was not soo fantastic.



    low income gamers... if money was a concern of these customers.. then they, when thinking rationally, did not purchase the 360.. counting that it breaks on average every 4 months.. the average game costing 50-60 bucks lasts from 4-18 hours total, and that it costs an additional fee to play online... additional costs if you wanted to go wirless network, even more for controller battery solutions, prioprietary communications devices.. on and on,.......
    in a 15 year period it would cost (NOT COUNTING GAMES) $33,300 to operate and maintain a single xbox 360 (this is counting the cost to replace, because it does, whether it is the customer, the retailer, or the manufacturer, it still costs). Comparing now to the ps3, it averages out to ~$330 for a 15 year period.

    I suppose.. like other poor people complaining about their life in the projects then somehow being able to spend money on 22" chrome rims and a sound system, these "low income gamers" have absolutely no rational thinking going on in their heads and would prefer the expensive system because somebody said it was popular/good/"has electrolytes, it has what the body craves"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirimon View Post
    Do you not recall the 360? forums and chat rooms lit up with "word of mouth" about how great a system it was...., most were soo poorly done one could easily spot a writer vs. a average gamer.

    Aside from the aggressive campaign by "users" they also did several publications, citing it as the only system with parental control, progressive scan, so on and so forth.. despite the contrary. They aren't the first either when it comes to making up words or phrases as logo to use as a "selling point".

    cash juggernauts... haha.. well...... sony does do commercials.. but they don't soo heavily advertise or "hype" things up.. the reality is.. had they been more aggressive in their advertising, specifically by citing actual specs, statistics and such, people would be on board with their stuff. case in point, Betamax.. a format that would have had us in the high definition age much sooner, it was superior as a format compared to VHS.. but lack of advertisement on the tech development led to others (like the **** industry) choosing VHS).. Sony has a bad habit of thinking that their name alone will sell a product.. like their sh*t should never stink..

    as far as getting caught... anybody with even a modicum of rationale' would easily discover the advertisements of a company posing as a customer. the 360 customers simply lacked that rational mind set, and put stock into the rumors of high praise for a system that frankly, and evidently, was not soo fantastic.



    low income gamers... if money was a concern of these customers.. then they, when thinking rationally, did not purchase the 360.. counting that it breaks on average every 4 months.. the average game costing 50-60 bucks lasts from 4-18 hours total, and that it costs an additional fee to play online... additional costs if you wanted to go wirless network, even more for controller battery solutions, prioprietary communications devices.. on and on,.......
    in a 15 year period it would cost (NOT COUNTING GAMES) $33,300 to operate and maintain a single xbox 360 (this is counting the cost to replace, because it does, whether it is the customer, the retailer, or the manufacturer, it still costs). Comparing now to the ps3, it averages out to ~$330 for a 15 year period.

    I suppose.. like other poor people complaining about their life in the projects then somehow being able to spend money on 22" chrome rims and a sound system, these "low income gamers" have absolutely no rational thinking going on in their heads and would prefer the expensive system because somebody said it was popular/good/"has electrolytes, it has what the body craves"....
    People bought the 360 because sony was stupid and priced their console at 600 on launch, not because of any hype machine... and the 360 basicly won out this generation because they got more machines into peoples livingrooms... the biggest market is the PRIMARY market for developers.

    It was their war to lose, and they lost it... considering how much of the market share they had in the previous generation compared to the original xbox. Nevermind it was Microsofts vision for what owning a console and being online would mean and define this generation.

    And come on... a new xbox every 4 months? Really? If that seems rational to you then theres something wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXsandwich View Post
    People bought the 360 because sony was stupid and priced their console at 600 on launch, not because of any hype machine... and the 360 basicly won out this generation because they got more machines into peoples livingrooms... the biggest market is the PRIMARY market for developers.

    It was their war to lose, and they lost it... considering how much of the market share they had in the previous generation compared to the original xbox. Nevermind it was Microsofts vision for what owning a console and being online would mean and define this generation.

    And come on... a new xbox every 4 months? Really? If that seems rational to you then theres something wrong...
    People bought the 360 because it came out a year before the PS3. The pricing was a moot point with that wait. 360 Didn't win the generation, even with a year lead and a system fail rate unheard off, they are still being out sold by PS3. Nintendo won that fight, by a massive margin. I'm with you on all other points though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXsandwich View Post
    and the 360 basicly won out this generation because they got more machines into peoples livingrooms...
    if by "more machines" you mean the fact that they have nearly 30 million less players online compared to playstation.. then sure.. more machines...

    units "sold" does not = units installed to a consumer...
    they counted sales in total, as in.. wal-mart purchased this many and so on. also.. with such a huge failure rate *87% at launch now down to 54% today) you can factor a HUGE portion portion of sales as being for replacements, whether it is the customer, or the retailer it is still "a sale" in ms's eyes...

    next time look at what the manufacturer publishes, then look at some 3rd party studies, and finally, if you can, conduct your own research to verify, validate, or counter another's so called findings. stop being a blind fatihful puppet of some brand name and instead make your own decisions, hopefully based on fact, and reasoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duction View Post
    you dont need a great internet connection for the xbox one, just some sort of connection you dont need fibre to play it lol. im glad they are doing this, they wont lose money through pirates and hackers. smart move. less money going into scumbags pockets,
    you're absolutely right!

    except when Anonymous gets bored and ddos's xbox live for a giggle on launch day, rendering everyones completely brand new fresh out of the box machine.... absolutely worthless until microsoft can get back online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXsandwich View Post
    And come on... a new xbox every 4 months? Really? If that seems rational to you then theres something wrong...
    you'll have to get used to mirimon pulling numbers out of his @$$, he's getting paid by sony to talk up the ps4 / trash talk the xbone (as well as try to tell everyone else they're an idiot for owning a 360).

    once you call him out on how much sony must be paying him, he usually goes away for a week or 3.
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