Does this game have any Depth?

[Tayan]

After seeing all the different Opinions about "Depth" in Gameplay, i suggest to check the Facts about Defiance first.
As some People here already have stated, it`s not a mmo-rpg but "simply" a mmo or mmo-tps (just as announced).

So in my Opinion, if you want to see if there's any Depth, you need to look into how the coop Gameplay works and that's hard to judge after 2 or 3 Days since it takes quite alot of EGO Rating to build your Character in any way you want it to be.
Be it offensive or suportive Type.

But at least, that's possible and should add to that said Depth of Gameplay as Long as there will be the proper Challenges for it.
It even Looks like there is a Kind of Aggro System for the bigger Encounters.

[Corbec]

I liked the beta, though I only played for a few hours. The only thing I wish for is a rework of the chat system - at least for PC. I liked the gameplay very much, but it's dumb that the crappy chat discourages people to communicate, in an MMO.

The story and the lore of the world also were somewhat in depth to me and got me curious to watch the show. So, mission accomplished.

A crafting system with e.g. chemistry, fishing and so on would be the icing on the cake, but I can spare this until I reached high level in about half a year or something.

[ZombieTech]

...Mana?

Any way, so what you're basically complaining about is that all you do is shoot? Are you SURE you've played MMOs before? That's all you do in them, you click a button until something dies. And this is only a Beta, I'm pretty sure I've read that there are "dungeon" areas. You can see one in one of the main missions.

Erm, not to be a dink, but are YOU sure you've ever played MMOs before?

[TwwiX]

What TwwiX is trying to say is that the game itself has major flaws.

No, what i am trying to say is that the core gameplay i.e. the combat system is lackluster, uninspired and requires no skill whatsoever. It all comes down to the core gameplay for me and this game executes it rather poorly.


What does Firefall do better, one of you asked? Well, for one, it facilitates team work and cooperation, unlike this game. Every class handles differently in terms of combat as well team dynamics. Look up "holy trinity". Grouping in this game just means increased damage output. Whether you solo or group, the experience is still the same. Spam brainless, bullet sponge enemies until you deplete their colossal HP then rinse and repeat. There's no tactics involved at all. When it comes to Arkfalls, you just run and roll around in circle like an idiot with the rest of the gathering and spam your arsenal. Hell, you don't even have to aim thanks to the lock on feature. It's no different from your average hot key based MMO's. Instead of cycling powers, you spam bullets instead.

[Booshy]

It's a shooter game. Get in, shoot things. Where is the problem with the "depth"? You have depth in choosing how and when use weapons, how to mod them, what ego power and perks use, it's a shooter.

If that's your idea of depth I would hate to have an intellectually in depth conversation with you. Would fear we'd just talk about the weather and call it one hell of a deep conversation when it was over.

[Booshy]

Your basing this off a beta build that intentionally lacks all the content of the main game?

Really? What's intentionally not in the beta build that will be in release?

[Booshy]

First its a beta so that makes your whole argument invalid, especially since it is a CLOSED BETA, INVITE ONLY. I know tons of players buying this game when they come out but do not have the beta. Also this is a multiple world game meaning there could be 5 worlds and 500 players playing split with 100 players on each world. Just wait until the initial release give it a month and i bet you there will be more than 1K players on each world. Also the map is very big if you already haven't noticed.

Doesn't make his argument invalid in the slightest actually - although it seems the age old "it's just beta!" argument is enough to convince you it is. I experienced the same thing in the starting zone - players all over around me and nothing said in chat, or in response to what I said in chat. Also, not sure how many betas you've been involved in, but I've been involved in quite a few. And never, in any of them, have I seen any significant differences between the final few betas and the release version. Still, in every one of those betas people would defend game shortcomings saying "it's only beta!" - but of course all those same shortcomings were present on release as well.

[Dead_Phoenix]

Really? What's intentionally not in the beta build that will be in release?

problem with this question is everyone who can answer is under NDA. (alpha testers).

Depending on some peoples definition I can easily say alot, others I can say very little.

[TwwiX]

problem with this question is everyone who can answer is under NDA. (alpha testers).

Depending on some peoples definition I can easily say alot, others I can say very little.

The NDA has been lifted on Friday. So feel free to enlighten us with your knowledge!

[aSmilingZombie]

Turn auto aim off. Enjoy solid shooter.