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  1. #201
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    idk other than the BMG what has aim assist in pvp i used to use the immunizer but i got bored of it. sucked to fun outta killing ppl.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blackwell View Post

    Now shotguns got 'nerfed' (I used to use them - not anymore as they're useless, I'll admit that)

    the shotguns got ruined
    and shotguns useless?!?! ruined? they're still pretty good, lots of ppl still use them so i know your crazy and your opinion not longer matters.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by kasaitenma View Post
    idk other than the BMG what has aim assist in pvp i used to use the immunizer but i got bored of it. sucked to fun outta killing ppl.


    and shotguns useless?!?! ruined? they're still pretty good, lots of ppl still use them so i know your crazy and your opinion not longer matters.
    Use whatever you want to discredit the rest of what I said, but I stand by what I've said all along. Keeping Pvp'ers happy is impossible and will never be achieved. The only way to make the PvP in this game 'balanced' (Haha...) is by removing EGO powers altogether but that will take a major chunk out of the gameplay that Defiance offers. You have no way of determining whether or not the weapon that player killed you with is maxed, has great mods or whether not they have the 'best' set up perk wise. Therefore meaning there are too many possibilities that can determine what truly makes a weapon 'OP' or not.

    I would also like to take this time to, yet again, parrot the phrase I've been saying ever since the first 'NERF SHOTGUNS!!1' found itself on this forum. This game is not centered around PvP, nor is its main focus on PvP; the main focus of Defiance is its PvE aspect. PvP is nothing but an anchor to this game, whether or not Trion cuts away from it is yet to be seen. What happens PvP side, effects the PvE part of the game - it's not the fact that PvE is essentially 'easy', it's because of a vocal minority (yes, you're part of a minority) keeps bickering over non existent 'balance' in weapons and that the rest of us suffer those changes because of it. Unfortunatey, the one who shouts the loudest gets the most attention.

    Those of us who enjoy the game, or those who have enough common sense to avoid the forum, are too busy enjoying ourselves to care to check the forum. I have saw BF3 be driven into the ground through idiotic changes, due to those crying over pointless things as they lacked common sense and the devs unfortunately listened to them. For that reason, I am going to at least attempt to prolong the time it takes for that to happen to this game. It will no doubt be in complete vain, but it is what it is.

    Balancing weapons is impossible because 'balance' to those who cry for it don't understand it. The only way to truly balance weapons is to leave them unbalanced. Having weapons being equal is moronic as you may as well have sticks and beat everyone around the head with them. This is what will eventually happen, if Trion doesn't realise it before it actually occurs. You all cried about shotguns, they got nerfed. Those who used shotguns moved onto infectors, now you're all crying about infectors. Trion are probably going to, yet again, listen to the vocal minority and nerf infectors. You're all going to come back when that happens and complain about the next supposed 'OP' weapon. They will 'nerf' that and guess what? This is going to go on and on and on until finally every single weapon is absolutely useless.

    All of this over some novelty PvP aspect of this game? You're aware that your score, K/DR in Defiance doesn't even mean anything? It's not stored on a leaderboard, no one cares if you went 76-9 or 45-22. PvP means nothing in this game, the only purpose it serves is to complete pursuits and that is it. Once you finish that? There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to return to it.

    'Nerfing' has never and will never fix anything.

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    u mad bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Blackwell View Post
    'Nerfing' has never and will never fix anything.
    "Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

    Seriously, if you really think this is the truth you have no place in a discussion concerning balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Blood View Post
    Next we'll jump on our magical unicorns and ride to the land where nobody loses in PvP, ever.

    -This
    you babies need to stop complaining.you are ruining the game.
    Trion do not listen to these losers.

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    Nobody made a 14 page assortment of *****ing and moaning when mah beloved FRC Heavy Scattergun was illicitly neutered, so I laugh at you infector users for your upcoming worthlessness! Let the nerfing Inquisition continue, hohohoho!

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    There's nothing wrong with Infectors

    It's Fine, Learn to Play

    Adapt and Overcome

    Stop Crying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Viper View Post
    There's nothing wrong with Infectors

    It's Fine, Learn to Play

    Adapt and Overcome

    Stop Crying
    Thanks for your input and supporting the thread.


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    I just hope it gets looked into and sorted out. It's really unbalanced.
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    why the hell would infectors be nerfed? if you are dying from them in MP a lot, then you're sucking; all you need to do to avoid the bugs is keep rolling, since most people use immunizers which deal little DoT when your not actually being hit by the needles.... true, you can die from the "5 needles and a bunch of damage from hatching bug" thing, but compared to a shotgun, it isn't great.I've been killed more often by a AR than the actual direct damage from a infector.... not talking about the bugs mind, because they kill fast, just the DoT....

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