Sooo, it's offical then.

[mbergeron]

Microsoft is giving old games to customers for free because people keep *****ing about their xbox live costs. Ooooh, assassin's creed two for free. Who the hell cares?

Voice controlled system that's easy to use? Because pushing some buttons was too difficult right? How many voice controlled systems have you ever seen that don't totally suck? "Start game: Halo". Response - "Shutting down."

Sony didn't feature their Move stuff because they know that only little children playing those lame Dancing games care about Movement technology. Sony is making a console for real, grown up gamers. Xbox is making a console for kids and for their parents, hence the all in one media center.

They've lost a lot of their big name exclusives because the games did so incredibly well that they've grown to be too big to be an exclusive. Really the only game that will always be an exclusive is Halo because it's pretty much completely owned by Microsoft. Normally, the only exclusive games are newer start-ups.

Yet all those little kids games beat out both systems easily with the Wii, so why wouldn't microsoft want to target a younger audience as well as adults who like to play those silly dancing games at parties. It is about appealing to a wider audience and giving those who are not gamers a chance to experience gaming.

[mbergeron]

You don't need PS+ to play online... it is just some dumb service that gives you discounts and some extra online storage.

PS online play is free.

For ps4 it will be required to play online. So no more free online play.

[Malachi]

Yet they have stuck with gaming, but they are also branching out and reaching other media platforms and making it much more accessible now for gamers. A lot of gamers watch tv no surprise there and now it is even better with xbox one. I have not seen anything that makes the ps4 clearly better just like the ps3 was supposed to be way better than 360 and side by side comparisons are not very different. What are they adding new to the ps4 that will make it different than the ps3?

More power and more MMO capabilities. That's what is different.

How is allowing you to watch tv on the xbox enhancing your show in any way? They haven't stuck with gaming at all.

[ShiMoShinkenFry]

Yet they have stuck with gaming, but they are also branching out and reaching other media platforms and making it much more accessible now for gamers. A lot of gamers watch tv no surprise there and now it is even better with xbox one. I have not seen anything that makes the ps4 clearly better just like the ps3 was supposed to be way better than 360 and side by side comparisons are not very different. What are they adding new to the ps4 that will make it different than the ps3?

Please do explain how having access to TV on your Xbox makes it better? You still have to pay for your TV provider. So basically you are paying $500 for a Cable Box. That sounds like a smart move. Playstation have done what you need to do with a console. Made it more powerful so that the games we play can be more immersive. That is all I want from a console. I have a TV remote to change over to Cable.

[Upinya Slayin]

For your first point. What about people who live in areas that are prone to storms and internet cutting out? Are they supposed to move house just to suit the console?
Secondly power is still power and plus majority of current gen games were being developed on the Xbox so the could be ported around, whereas next gen a lot of developers seem to be making the games on the PS4.
Thirdly the exclusive Sony shared was good enough. Just look at what Microsoft had to offer, there was nothing that even compared to The Order.
Finally looking at how they have set it up Microsoft have gone much more heavily into Media, most of the stuff isn't needed at all for a gaming console. It is basically a Media Centre, whereas Sony have done some media but their main focus is what a gaming console should be and that is gaming.

1) if you have a storm taht kocks out your internet for over 24 hours, i'm pretty sure your not gonna be playing games and you probably won't have electricity either. once every 24 hours isn't gonna stop you form playing unless you can't pay your internet bill. also it will keep hackers and pirated software offline for a better online gaming community.
2) MS Os > sony OS. so devs develop for MS and port. that isn't gonna chnage. most engines are tuned for PC and xbox PS only gets ports except for their exclusives. and that isn't gonna change. xbox uses the power more efficiently then sony due to the 3 OSs it runs. i seen xbox change from TV to games to internet to moveis in a flash with voice command, PS4 couldn't even run a small demo of AC4. PS3 was more powerful then the 360 but the 360 works better. history shows that the slightly better ram isn't gonna make a diffrence
3) If you like the order thats cool. i bet you forza and halo outsell it miles. i love how one video of a trialer means a game blows away established awesome franchises. plus dead rising 3, and a slew of other awesome games announced for X1 only. i mean IDK how it can be better based on a trialer over established frnachises. sony lost its flagship franchise with MGS
4) how is MS not geared to gamers but sony is? MS has more exclsuive games coming out then sony. to me that measn they are more focused on games

[Jack The Bear]

Yet all those little kids games beat out both systems easily with the Wii, so why wouldn't microsoft want to target a younger audience as well as adults who like to play those silly dancing games at parties. It is about appealing to a wider audience and giving those who are not gamers a chance to experience gaming.

Soooo.. AKA Selling Out? Yea sounds like Microsoft honestly. They screw most things up they do. Original Xbox was amazing atleast.

[Malachi]

Yet all those little kids games beat out both systems easily with the Wii, so why wouldn't microsoft want to target a younger audience as well as adults who like to play those silly dancing games at parties. It is about appealing to a wider audience and giving those who are not gamers a chance to experience gaming.

Sony isn't targeting a younger audience because they know Nintendo and Microsoft already are. Sony wants to target real gamers because that's what they care about. Sony doesn't want to "give those who are not gamers a chance to experience gaming" because DANCING is not gaming! TELEVISION is not gaming!

[Ryzaerian]

Have you guys read this?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...box-one-at-e3/

To say that Sony absolutely pwned Microsoft in the face would be an understatement.

[ShiMoShinkenFry]

1) if you have a storm taht kocks out your internet for over 24 hours, i'm pretty sure your not gonna be playing games and you probably won't have electricity either. once every 24 hours isn't gonna stop you form playing unless you can't pay your internet bill. also it will keep hackers and pirated software offline for a better online gaming community.
2) MS Os > sony OS. so devs develop for MS and port. that isn't gonna chnage. most engines are tuned for PC and xbox PS only gets ports except for their exclusives. and that isn't gonna change. xbox uses the power more efficiently then sony due to the 3 OSs it runs. i seen xbox change from TV to games to internet to moveis in a flash with voice command, PS4 couldn't even run a small demo of AC4. PS3 was more powerful then the 360 but the 360 works better. history shows that the slightly better ram isn't gonna make a diffrence
3) If you like the order thats cool. i bet you forza and halo outsell it miles. i love how one video of a trialer means a game blows away established awesome franchises. plus dead rising 3, and a slew of other awesome games announced for X1 only. i mean IDK how it can be better based on a trialer over established frnachises. sony lost its flagship franchise with MGS
4) how is MS not geared to gamers but sony is? MS has more exclsuive games coming out then sony. to me that measn they are more focused on games

For your first point I know people who have their internet knocked out all the time and Microsofts new system would cause problems for them.
Secondly from what I have been reading companies seem to be using Sonys.
Thirdly Forza didn't look anything special and will struggle to beat games like Gran Turismo, Also Halo has got nothing on games like Killzone. Also Dead Rising looks like they have taken the game away from its origins.
Look at the Exclusives Microsoft has coming out. None of them even look that good. But when you look at the games Sony are bringing for example the MMO's they are catering to more gamers.

[SYN BLACK XS]

As an ambassador for Xbox I will say this

Ps4 no thank you Xbox one oh yea idc if im the only one who has already preorderd the one or am getting it lol

I dont think being an Ambassador has anything to do with it. I've been an avid MS games & hardware playtester/usability tester/fanboy/at one point employee/1st wave Live Ambassador/etc... I've been with them since the birth of the Xbox/Live/everything..... that doesnt make me feel anymore comfortable about where they plan to take this new console...

My clan/community is almost entirely based out of the 360, so as a whole, we're very concerned

The downside is, Sony has acknowledged that they havent done ANYTHING to improve the chat/etc portion of their online service. The ONE thing they truly needed to focus on. schtako... oh well