Sooo, it's offical then.

[TheCornmander]

yup cause everyone still prefers this

to a new smartphone

also
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...y-e3-2013.html
PS4 will have DRM based on publishers just like MS said.

Some people do. I prefer to sit back and stay high as long as I can with a hand-held controller rather than be all moving around with some crazy dance **** just to play ma game.

[Upinya Slayin]

Yeah, the PS3 launched at a really high price. Because of that, they didn't sell as many consoles as the Xbox 360. So you know what Sony learned from that? They learned not to launch at a really high price! Microsoft didn't learn anything and now they're going to make the same mistake that Sony made.

Also, if the Xbox One is so superior and is perfect for true gamers - then how come ever since the first Xbox press conference my twitter, facebook, google+, etc, feeds are all completely full of people making fun of Xbox? You are, no exaggeration, one of only 2 people that I've seen out of literally hundreds and hundreds that is saying he'll get the Xbox and not the PS4.

Like I mentioned on Reigning Sun - the reason it's called the Xbox One is because only One person will buy it.

because in general people are stupid. and i say this as a fact. there are a lot of stupid people in the world and the internet really brings out the dumb in people allwoing them a voice to say what they want with complete anonymity.

anyway back to the topic if you want facts

1) PS4 has same DRM as MS
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...y-e3-2013.html

2) PSN will charge a fee now. no more free online gaming

3) PSN has a 1st gen party system. xbox is on 3rd gen. less bugs on 3rd gen

4) xbox has more exclusives

5) xbox has 300k servers, PS has 0

those are pure facts, not opinion

[Malachi]

lol far from butthurt. and the PS3 won E3 many years ago yet the 360 sold it 2:1 and had more real gamers ,more competatition,and better online play. so we'll see when the holidays roll around. MS is the new apple, people tarsh them but still buy their products

It outsold it because it was cheaper. This time, the PS4 is cheaper. Guess who will win.

Also, the Xbox 360 is one of the most cheaply manufactured pieces of crap ever to exist. It's even worse than Dells. They broke so god damn much, it wasn't even funny. Congratulations, you're a fanboy of inferior hardware and now even inferior software.

[Malachi]

it doens't have to be plugged in,more false rumors. and i know soldiers that play with kinect as a mic right now so again more false info.

gotta love the internet

1. Most military locations will not allow any machine that has a camera attached to it. That could lead to being compromised.
2. "gotta love the internet" yeah - that thing that soldiers don't always have access to. Oh too bad Xbox requires it. Sorry troops, Microsoft hates you.

[TheCornmander]

My Cat's breath smells like Cat Food

One day you will realize that when everyone is an *******. You're really the *******.

[Malachi]

yet destiny is on the 360 and X1 and will releasea year earilerfor xbox
http://www.ign.com/wikis/destiny

so by the time PS4 people get it i would have beaten it and grown bored with it. also it requires an always on connection to play.


also xbox one 15 exclsuive game sin yar one and 8 of them new franchises
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...ranchises.html

i like games and MS is delivering on games.

and no PS2 dind't have online capability. after the xbox launched PS2 countered with an add on for 150 bucks to allow online play and was dial up so laggy as hell with no party system or anything no friends list just random online playing so again your wrong.

1. You're quoting legal data, that not all of the information is available for, and is incredibly old. Hell, it's still called the Xbox 720. I already linked you an article about Bungie making a deal with Sony. They are literally partners now. That means they are favoring the PS4. You can keep arguing with me, but you just look more silly each passing moment.

2. You keep bragging about these Xbox exclusives, when most of them are awful sequels or just plain awful. And once again I say - Sony has not announced all of their exclusives.

3. Sure, your Xbox had online capabilities before the PS2. But PS2 had Phantasy Star which was much more impressive than some online deathmatches in Halo. Besides, the mother****ing SEGA was the first console to have online capabilities - in 1994. How's Sega doing these days?

4. Shut up.

[phen0meenal]

because in general people are stupid. and i say this as a fact. there are a lot of stupid people in the world and the internet really brings out the dumb in people allwoing them a voice to say what they want with complete anonymity.

anyway back to the topic if you want facts

1) PS4 has same DRM as MS
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...y-e3-2013.html

2) PSN will charge a fee now. no more free online gaming

3) PSN has a 1st gen party system. xbox is on 3rd gen. less bugs on 3rd gen

4) xbox has more exclusives

5) xbox has 300k servers, PS has 0

those are pure facts, not opinion

but dude





Unless i missed something, every account on an xbox has to buy gold to play online.
I also assume netflix etc will still be behind the gold paywall.

[Malachi]

because in general people are stupid. and i say this as a fact. there are a lot of stupid people in the world and the internet really brings out the dumb in people allwoing them a voice to say what they want with complete anonymity.

anyway back to the topic if you want facts

1) PS4 has same DRM as MS
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...y-e3-2013.html

2) PSN will charge a fee now. no more free online gaming

3) PSN has a 1st gen party system. xbox is on 3rd gen. less bugs on 3rd gen

4) xbox has more exclusives

5) xbox has 300k servers, PS has 0

those are pure facts, not opinion

1. Did you even READ the article that you linked. It gives clear quotes such as ""The DRM decision for third-party games will be up to publishers." - That does not say Used Games, just DRM. And also "We believe in the model that people embrace today with PlayStation 3." - That means **** isn't changing. The only thing that rd party publishers can do is put restrictions on certain content via online passes, like for DLC. Same as it already is.

2. Yes, PSN will charge a fee now. You're right about that. But at least the fee is only for actually playing multiplayer games. Xbox Live is required for a lot of other non-game services. I guess that's what Xbox is all about though...non-games.

3. PSN is getting a lot of upgrades, so how is that a 1st gen system? Also, less bugs on a 3rd gen? Dude, it's a modified Windows 8. Bugs galore.

4. Stop mentioning exclusives! The Xbox ones suck *** and Sony hasn't released all of their exclusives yet! My god you're dense.

5. Ooh, 300k servers to keep my cloud data. That's so important. Besides, what do you think the new PS Plus fee is for?

[Upinya Slayin]

1. You're quoting legal data, that not all of the information is available for, and is incredibly old. Hell, it's still called the Xbox 720. I already linked you an article about Bungie making a deal with Sony. They are literally partners now. That means they are favoring the PS4. You can keep arguing with me, but you just look more silly each passing moment.

2. You keep bragging about these Xbox exclusives, when most of them are awful sequels or just plain awful. And once again I say - Sony has not announced all of their exclusives.

3. Sure, your Xbox had online capabilities before the PS2. But PS2 had Phantasy Star which was much more impressive than some online deathmatches in Halo. Besides, the mother****ing SEGA was the first console to have online capabilities - in 1994. How's Sega doing these days?

4. Shut up.

1)yup legal data. and even with tehir partnership the game will still be on the X1 and possible even before it launches on the PS4 due to legal reasons. also bungie isn't exclsuive to PS and really halo was their big thing. if destiny flops bungie will be done. they have a lot riding on it. it looks awesome but they aren't bringing any exclsusives to the PS so IDK what good its doing them

2) lol most are bad sequals? 15 exclusives 8 are new so most of them are new franchises. and halo is a bad sequel? its one of the top franchises. as is gears which i personally don't like but it is a top franchise non the less. Forza is the top racing franchise as well. and dead rising looks awesome. as does ryse but the last 2 parts are just opinions. still your wrong

3) lol phanstasy star online? thats your big game? better then unreal tournament, halo, counter strike, etc. xbox had awesome online gaming. PS2 had socomon dial up and phantasy star.

4) lol real mature. you realize your wrong and pout like a baby

[Upinya Slayin]

but dude





Unless i missed something, every account on an xbox has to buy gold to play online.
I also assume netflix etc will still be behind the gold paywall.

1) sony is doing bait and switch advertising. they have the same DRM as MS
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/new...y-e3-2013.html

which is its up to the publishers not us. difference is MS made it clear, while sony sayd hey were not restricting naything at all, but aren't mentioning that the publishers can.MS isn't restricting anything either. sony is just marketing around their DRM while MS was honest about it.

2) no you don't need XB gold to watch netflix or hulu or anything. you don't even need to for party chat. you only need it to play games online