Sooo, it's offical then.

[Malachi]

exactly. xboxb comes wiht the kinect. if you wnat sonys move for even 2 people you'll pay over 180 bucks for the camera and controllers

Yeah, xbox comes with connect and it has to be plugged in. This means that the Xbox One is NOT allowed in military areas. It is banned. All the troops will be playing PS4, and they sure do love their video games.

[Upinya Slayin]

You don't need PS+ to play online... it is just some dumb service that gives you discounts and some extra online storage.

PS online play is free. So I pay 0.00 a month.

/Lifts leg and sprays you with warm butter*

/Pushes you into a salt dune*

CONSIDER YOURSELF CORNED

and i pay 3.50 a month less then a cup of coffee to not have my CC stolen, to have a large friends list, party chat, superior matchmaking,avoid player systems, and report cheaters systems that wll get banned of XBL for cheating. well worth it. also to have 15k dedicated servers to keepmy data and cloud service

now on the next gen i gett improvmenets on it all and 300k dedicated servers. sony will HAVE to pay to play now. so your free online play is gone. what else do you have?

[Malachi]

I was going to keep this conversation going, but seeing as your a butt-hurt fanboy im just going to stop. the PS4 won this year, Get over it. I wouldnt see so many "Screw Xbox, Im going PS4" all over the web otherwise. Your precious little console isn't always going to be the greatest, get over it. Whichever is my preffered console is the one that impressess me the most. I was X360 this gen until it broke, and broke, and broke. Then i went back to PS3. Next gen is all about PS4. Can't get over it? The you can screw right the hell off, Good day. ;]

Oh yeah, that's a good point, Bear. The only reason that the 360 outsold the PS3 is because people had to keep buying new consoles after their crap 360 broke.

[Upinya Slayin]

More power and more MMO capabilities. That's what is different.

How is allowing you to watch tv on the xbox enhancing your show in any way? They haven't stuck with gaming at all.

you mean when i play the exclusive game RYSE son of rome and i use voice commands to order my troops while i fight with my superior controller against people. yup thats not better immersion /sarcasm

the kinect is the future of gaming. tying you in with voice commands. imagine you playing a war game and ordering squads to do things while fighting at the same time yelling "fall back" whiel you crouch and take cover and you squad comes back to you then yelling supression fire and using it to move to a flank on the enemy. xbox is made to immerse gamers in a full experiance. PS still has the same controller for 15 years ago and is bringing back kids franchises to help sell consoles

[Upinya Slayin]

Sony isn't targeting a younger audience because they know Nintendo and Microsoft already are. Sony wants to target real gamers because that's what they care about. Sony doesn't want to "give those who are not gamers a chance to experience gaming" because DANCING is not gaming! TELEVISION is not gaming!

and what game did they make for these gamers?

[Clown]

I'm Stupid

I couldn't agree more.

[Malachi]

really cause forza isn't the best racing game out there?

sony lost its big exclusive with MGS. and at one point weren't people like what is halo? just some new game they are pushing taht will fail. how dod that work out? MS has always been a agmers system. they invented and perfected online console play, they invented halo, the brought FPS's like counterstrike to console. sony gave us outdated JRPGS and kids games like kingdom hearst,which they now lost. they lost KH, lost MGS, what did MS lose?

also xbox gets content first. destiny is coming out on XBOX before the PS. DLC gets launched first for xbox and works better on it. all i see for sony's defense is pure made up stuff. please bring facts of your gonna make an argument

What the heck are you talking about? Bungie, the people who made Halo (not Microsoft, they just bought it) is PARTNERED with guess who...SONY! Link for ya.

Also, I know most people don't like Forza. They prefer Grand Turismo and other racing games.

And please please please take your foot and place it into your mouth because you just told me to get my facts straight when you're blatantly wrong. You think Microsoft invented console gaming? Please tell me what the PS2 did then. Because I sure as hell thought I saw the first online games on the PS2.

Microsoft just keeps inventing things for people who are NOT gamers. Kinect? For kids. TV/Netflix/Media? For parents. And don't feed me that crap about "now they'll be new gamers" because they're not actually playing real games! They're dancing and watching tv. They don't magically become gamers just because they pop in the latest Let's Dance!

Microsoft is going to end up just like Nintendo. A respectable company, but nobody takes them serious when it comes to real gaming. They're the fluff console. They exist for family entertainment, and not for hardcore gaming. PlayStation has recognized this and has decided to cement themselves as the gamer's choice.

[Upinya Slayin]

Have you guys read this?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...box-one-at-e3/

To say that Sony absolutely pwned Microsoft in the face would be an understatement.

The PS3 launched at 500 dollars. the fact this is a million times better and had teh same price shows how little some people know.not to mention it comes with the kinect which in itself is 150.00

[Malachi]

you mean when i play the exclusive game RYSE son of rome and i use voice commands to order my troops while i fight with my superior controller against people. yup thats not better immersion /sarcasm

the kinect is the future of gaming. tying you in with voice commands. imagine you playing a war game and ordering squads to do things while fighting at the same time yelling "fall back" whiel you crouch and take cover and you squad comes back to you then yelling supression fire and using it to move to a flank on the enemy. xbox is made to immerse gamers in a full experiance. PS still has the same controller for 15 years ago and is bringing back kids franchises to help sell consoles

You're just going to look like an idiot shouting at his tv, jumping up and down trying to get "cover".

Also, superior controller? PlayStation has had the same controller for 15 years because they don't NEED to change it. Don't fix what ain't broke.

[TheCornmander]

and i pay 3.50 a month less then a cup of coffee to not have my CC stolen, to have a large friends list, party chat, superior matchmaking,avoid player systems, and report cheaters systems that wll get banned of XBL for cheating. well worth it. also to have 15k dedicated servers to keepmy data and cloud service

now on the next gen i gett improvmenets on it all and 300k dedicated servers. sony will HAVE to pay to play now. so your free online play is gone. what else do you have?

Well I'm aware that debt is a form of slavery so I don't own a credit card. So There is nothing for them to steal from my Playstation. Good Try, and good luck in the future posting your credit card number online on "secure" sites (microsoft included).