Afraid about xbone 24hr online check up?

[ToneSim]

Before I jump into the debate I want to point out that I have already preordered and paid for my XB1. That being said mine will not be in the main living room with the whole family. It will be in my office where my 360 is. No Cable TV. Just internet...

VENT
What your all failing to realize is the data collected by MS can be obtained by the US Government. In this case it would be what you said to your mate in the chat or who you called on Skype. Watch a extreme video and you get flagged.

Although its only recently that the practice of obtaining information from major companies has become mainstream. It's been going on for awhile. Now you put a system in your house that has the ability to record the movement and conversations of everyone in the room. Facial recognition program that gets tapped to look for some random bloke.

Annoyed
We have 3 xboxs in our house and have a family membership. Its not uncommon for me to buy a game like Star Wars Lego and let my youngest who's 3 play it. He actually plays it on two different xboxs. If I'm playing on mine he just takes the disc and plays it on his sisters Xbox.

This is the same thing with Fable 3 and Halo's. One Disc gets played by everyone in the family at some time. The exception to this is games like Black Ops when I buy a copy for both my oldest son and myself. So right now I don't plan on buying a 2nd Xbox1 and the kids will have to just hold on to their xboxs till they die.

Last Grip for me is the lack of gamer details or common sense on MS part. Like can I login on my xbox and play a game and watch netflix on my xbox1? Or can I only be logged into one system. Do they think I'm going to spend $60 on a game every couple weeks unless I know it's an awesome game. How many bombs have we all bought alone in 2013? Aliens??

yeah, the shared games thing isn't the big issue most would have you believe.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...game-policies/

"Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.

For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.

You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area."

not only do you have a means to share games, it looks as though the sharing system works much like today's xbla, allowing the owner of the game to even play a title simultaneously with one of the shared accounts, basically giving you a "2 for 1" on new games.

I don't know about you, but the idea that I can buy any new multiplayer game and play it with my wife without needing a second copy Is jekking AWESOME. I'll take the hit on used games for that.

and BTW, if you are really so concerned about the Kinect spying on you, the simple answer is unplugging it when not using your console. No power, no eyes and ears.

funny thing is, most people who make this complaint use the internet, as such use computers, send emails, have cell phones, smartphones(with reg and front facingcams), normal phones, play games online, and so on. Several means by which they are already being tracked and checked up on by any number of sources, not just the government. If so, they aren't really all that concerned with privacy, so why is Kinect a OMGBIGBROTHERISWATCHINGSPYCAMBBQ1!!!11!!!!

[Mirimon]

yeah, the shared games thing isn't the big issue most would have you believe.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...game-policies/

"Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.

For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.

You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area."

not only do you have a means to share games, it looks as though the sharing system works much like today's xbla, allowing the owner of the game to even play a title simultaneously with one of the shared accounts, basically giving you a "2 for 1" on new games.

I don't know about you, but the idea that I can buy any new multiplayer game and play it with my wife without needing a second copy Is jekking AWESOME. I'll take the hit on used games for that.

and BTW, if you are really so concerned about the Kinect spying on you, the simple answer is unplugging it when not using your console. No power, no eyes and ears.

funny thing is, most people who make this complaint use the internet, as such use computers, send emails, have cell phones, smartphones(with reg and front facingcams), normal phones, play games online, and so on. Several means by which they are already being tracked and checked up on by any number of sources, not just the government. If so, they aren't really all that concerned with privacy, so why is Kinect a OMGBIGBROTHERISWATCHINGSPYCAMBBQ1!!!11!!!!

it simply requires that anybody you try to share with be a friend for a minimum of 30 days..this flowchart hits the nail on the head.

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...qKN0r_700b.jpg

[boosted gear]

yeah, the shared games thing isn't the big issue most would have you believe.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...game-policies/

"Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.

For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.

You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area."

not only do you have a means to share games, it looks as though the sharing system works much like today's xbla, allowing the owner of the game to even play a title simultaneously with one of the shared accounts, basically giving you a "2 for 1" on new games.

I don't know about you, but the idea that I can buy any new multiplayer game and play it with my wife without needing a second copy Is jekking AWESOME. I'll take the hit on used games for that.

and BTW, if you are really so concerned about the Kinect spying on you, the simple answer is unplugging it when not using your console. No power, no eyes and ears.

funny thing is, most people who make this complaint use the internet, as such use computers, send emails, have cell phones, smartphones(with reg and front facingcams), normal phones, play games online, and so on. Several means by which they are already being tracked and checked up on by any number of sources, not just the government. If so, they aren't really all that concerned with privacy, so why is Kinect a OMGBIGBROTHERISWATCHINGSPYCAMBBQ1!!!11!!!!

The sharing feature sounds pretty good for those who have the need for it I like the idea but not at the cost of the restrictions on drm and the daily system check. I have internet and yes I email from time to time I even got on facebook to ignore all the notifications im not very social haha. But to be required to be online is a problem im fine now but in a year I dont know plus then I wonder if I have a physical copy of a game but require authentication to play then I merely only rent a license for as long as the servers are up. Which will be a long time granted and to the argument of go play an old console well it wont have the games I want to play now.

Some great features but at a price and thats the reason people are concerned there not just thinking of now but eventual problems in the future and their lifestyles.

[BVegas]

My major issue with Xbox one is the fact you can't play used games. I don't quite understand where they get off telling you how and where you can use your purchase. If I buy a sandwich and give it to you it's fine McDonalds can't say no that sandwich is only for you and no one else can have it. Lets go one step further imagine if everything needed to be bought new and could only have 1 owner or shared within a family of users new car, new furniture, new electronics etc. you wouldn't stand for that so why do we allow it with games? You can say the developers make no money but that's a lie game stores by it from distributors at a $2-$5 mark up and sell it for a $2-$5 mark up so no one but the developers is making money off the game. I suppose if you only want to go to a big box retailer for a game purchase like best buy, wal-mart, Target, or HH Greg than you're good but say good bye to midnight releases at your local game store and even game stop will go the way of the dodo.

As a gamer I go with the biggest bang for my buck this gen PS3 lost with their network issues and 2hr updates but next gen PS4 network is a paid network and security should be better and you can play used games which wins for me the no internet requirements is just an added bonus.

I know we live in the digital age where everything is online but I still know of places that don't have high speed internet access and plenty of people that can't afford to have the internet period so there's a huge market Xbox is losing. The only way Xbox One would be actually decent is if the games cost $30 cause they took away used and gave something back to you.

At the end of the day neither company pays for your loyalty so do some soul searching and see what console will deliver the best for you.

[gamingreal]

Can i just say MS have done a dire job of explaining how there system is going to handle games and accounts as well as not explaining any of the potential benefits of said system leading to mass confusion and hate towards MS.

I live right down at the bottom of Cornwall and internet wise we get the discarded dregs enough for gaming most of the time but not brilliant,
during the summer hols it goes really slow, our net is quite reliable but not spending hundreds of pounds on a internet reliant console reliable, so i will be getting a ps4 eventually eventually mirrors edge comes out.

I still dont agree with MS new tactic
too many cons,
too much loss of control our content
terrible judgement regarding today's technological limits and lifestyles
and general greediness and lack of respect for the consumer

[ToneSim]

The only way Xbox One would be actually decent is if the games cost $30 cause they took away used and gave something back to you.

As I said previously, the game sharing allows simultaneous play between the game owner and one shared account, essentially giving you two copies of every new game for the price of one. It's the whole reason I couldn't care less about their used restrictions. It's a fair trade for my wife and I who find ourselves having to spend $120+tax many times when we want to play certain new games together, or even both want to play a single player game. How great would it have been if sixty bucks got us two copies of Skyrim?

[Mirimon]

Can i just say MS have done a dire job of explaining how there system is going to handle games and accounts as well as not explaining any of the potential benefits of said system leading to mass confusion and hate towards MS.

I live right down at the bottom of Cornwall and internet wise we get the discarded dregs enough for gaming most of the time but not brilliant,
during the summer hols it goes really slow, our net is quite reliable but not spending hundreds of pounds on a internet reliant console reliable, so i will be getting a ps4 eventually eventually mirrors edge comes out.

I still dont agree with MS new tactic
too many cons,
too much loss of control our content
terrible judgement regarding today's technological limits and lifestyles
and general greediness and lack of respect for the consumer

that and, you have further regional restriction.. half that crap they talk about it doing for entertainment excludes you in the UK.

[gamingreal]

that and, you have further regional restriction.. half that crap they talk about it doing for entertainment excludes you in the UK.

didn't think of that, i also have no cable i don't even have freesat i just have freeview which only works when it wants to, don't really want the extra gunf, i dont bother with tv much,
only use my 360 for gaming, watching youtube, watching mp4 video (like defiance episodes)
& very occasionally catching up on the missed tv

[Mirimon]

As I said previously, the game sharing allows simultaneous play between the game owner and one shared account, essentially giving you two copies of every new game for the price of one. It's the whole reason I couldn't care less about their used restrictions. It's a fair trade for my wife and I who find ourselves having to spend $120+tax many times when we want to play certain new games together, or even both want to play a single player game. How great would it have been if sixty bucks got us two copies of Skyrim?

shared gaming is not applicable to all titles, and those that do is VERY LIMITED.....

see below for actual game sharing for next gen.

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net...qKN0r_700b.jpg

[GeordieReaper]

As I said previously, the game sharing allows simultaneous play between the game owner and one shared account, essentially giving you two copies of every new game for the price of one. It's the whole reason I couldn't care less about their used restrictions. It's a fair trade for my wife and I who find ourselves having to spend $120+tax many times when we want to play certain new games together, or even both want to play a single player game. How great would it have been if sixty bucks got us two copies of Skyrim?

You need to be careful here, MS have not confirmed the ability for the 2 people sharing simultaneously to play multilayer off one game. In fact I believe Major Nelson when interviewed by Angry Joe actually said you would only be able to play the single player portion of a game. As usual its all as clear as mud from MS.