Afraid about xbone 24hr online check up?

[GeordieReaper]

If you think online gaming will be worse because of this cloud stuff your in for a big surprise.

There will be pretty much no lag console side, and very little server/cloud side for online gaming.

Im still going with xbone, and getting more and more reasons to.

Not worse but as I've already said there is the potential for huge technical problems because current internet infrastructure isn't up to the job. So your playing a game and your Xbone has offloaded some game processes to the cloud, your internet goes down or glitches, what then? I'm on a 60MB fibre optic connection so its not a problem for me, but what about the majority of people who aren't? How does that affect the size of communities with regard to on-line multilayer games on the Xbone? I can see populations on Xbone being very small on MMO's.

Please understand I have no problem with the machine itself, its MS policies with regard to the Xbone and what I see as current technical limitations due to poor internet services. I think MS ambition is way ahead of the technology but we'll see. I'm going to wait until after Christmas and the dust settles, then we'll see what the actual state of play is with both consoles.

[Mirimon]

If you miss the 24h window your xbox will only be able to play blurays and dvds
(i still don't own a single bluray disc, hd is for gaming not movies..as far as i'm concerned),
You will be able to play your games again once you connect to the live servers no additional fees

not according to the 3 separate reps at the ms booths this year, but then again.. they too are dealing with different info and strategy not yet nailed down on two to spin their failure into a positive.

I would expect their methods to change, but given the stubborn nature of microsoft have have high doubts as well.

[Aycid]

Not worse but as I've already said there is the potential for huge technical problems because current internet infrastructure isn't up to the job. So your playing a game and your Xbone has offloaded some game processes to the cloud, your internet goes down or glitches, what then? I'm on a 60MB fibre optic connection so its not a problem for me, but what about the majority of people who aren't? How does that affect the size of communities with regard to on-line multilayer games on the Xbone? I can see populations on Xbone being very small on MMO's.

Please understand I have no problem with the machine itself, its MS policies with regard to the Xbone and what I see as current technical limitations due to poor internet services. I think MS ambition is way ahead of the technology but we'll see. I'm going to wait until after Christmas and the dust settles, then we'll see what the actual state of play is with both consoles.

well if it does go down or glitches, your online gaming is going to fail regardless of what system your playing on?

And if your talking about offline games, they have already said if your internet goes down for short period of time this will be no problem

Ive been hoping for quality internet restrictions for online gaming for ages now. even if they had a Excellent>Standard>Belowstandard forced options because of all this lag compensation bs.

looks like now for xbone you going to need standard or above period. And for me thats F*king fantastic!!!

less lag compensation the better for me.

[boosted gear]

atm, if you missed your 24 hour window it's locked, and you WILL have to pay to reactivate.. this is separate from the "trade" concept they have, which only works for a VERY specific set of persons, at the right time of day, when the moon is the right shape and the planets are aligned....

also heard people talking that it has more ram.. it does.. but it isn't what you think.. while ddr3 ram is better at burst data, the ddr5 is naturally faster, and clocked at such a speed as to exceed their ddr3's potential in terms of development. What they also have is 32mb of esram..while meant to "compliment" the slower ddr3, esram has issues, like it takes up more space, and.. is another wrench thrown at developers to try and figure out which memory to apply each task to. esram also has several other issues I won't bother getting into here, but I can say this.. the inclusion of esram to the xb1 has actually made developing more difficult, and right now xbox is having some serious issues with the yield of the system with the esram in place. (one of the contributing factors as to why there were more videos to watch than games to play at the ms booth for e3, and why the few that were up for demo were running on pc's and not consoles.

The xbones at e3 were running on hp pcs using windows 7 os which is strange as the xbone is supposed to be running a variant of windows 8 to make things more interesting they were using nvidia gtx 700 series graphics card while they claimed all the games were running on comparable hardware to the xbone and its mid range amd gpu...hmmmm really. The ps4 games ran on ps4 dev kits both games showed signs of freezing from both companies but which is worse lol.

It has to be said we dont know if all xbone pcs (dev kits) were all the same but its food for thought.

[gamingreal]

well if it does go down or glitches, your online gaming is going to fail regardless of what system your playing on?

And if your talking about offline games, they have already said if your internet goes down for short period of time this will be no problem

Ive been hoping for quality internet restrictions for online gaming for ages now. even if they had a Excellent>Standard>Belowstandard forced options because of all this lag compensation bs.

looks like now for xbone you going to need standard or above period. And for me thats F*king fantastic!!!

less lag compensation the better for me.

The cloud resources could be used to offset some of the processing off the console (Ms have hinted at this as a common usage for the cloud resources) so potentially your single player games could have issues if you lose the net for a minuit
and the internet speed requirements (if true) are far greater than what you need for stable relatively lag compensation free multi player so MS are just being elitist not practical or fare.
as for forced Excellent>Standard>Belowstandard options for multiplayer good idea in theory but falls down fast when one of your mates you want to play online with doesn't fall within your bracket

[mikey]

Ok then me and a mate were discussing the ps4 and xbone in the pub this weekend and he mentioned something I hadn't thought about, if games producers are making money from every xbone game because of the drm and not every ps4 game could that mean more profit from xbone games despite the 3 to 1 preorders in ps4's favour and therefore lead to more exclusives for xbone in the long run.

Got me thinking about it anyway.

[boosted gear]

Ok then me and a mate were discussing the ps4 and xbone in the pub this weekend and he mentioned something I hadn't thought about, if games producers are making money from every xbone game because of the drm and not every ps4 game could that mean more profit from xbone games despite the 3 to 1 preorders in ps4's favour and therefore lead to more exclusives for xbone in the long run.

Got me thinking about it anyway.

I think developers will go where the money is which is usualy the higer user base its just my own view though looking at EAs stance on the wii u it will support the console but only when it is has the user base to support the development. If the final figures were three to one in favour of ps4 I think developers would vote with their pockets and go where the money is.

I think most people trade in to buy new games anyway it filters back to them in the end there just greedy and if given the chance would milk us for everything. Its an interesting point

[Wuffletronics]

...Anyone else reading xbone as X Bone? Is it just me? Do I have a smutty mind? Yes I do, but it can't be just me. Come on.

[gamingreal]

...Anyone else reading xbone as X Bone? Is it just me? Do I have a smutty mind? Yes I do, but it can't be just me. Come on.

I though that was how it was supposed to be said just thought MS had had some miscommunication as they seem pretty bad at communicating with the public

but seriously yea that's how i've been reading it

[Mirimon]

The xbones at e3 were running on hp pcs using windows 7 os which is strange as the xbone is supposed to be running a variant of windows 8 to make things more interesting they were using nvidia gtx 700 series graphics card while they claimed all the games were running on comparable hardware to the xbone and its mid range amd gpu...hmmmm really. The ps4 games ran on ps4 dev kits both games showed signs of freezing from both companies but which is worse lol.

It has to be said we dont know if all xbone pcs (dev kits) were all the same but its food for thought.

I wasn't aware too much of the specs they were running the kits on, just that they weren't the consoles themselves.. that said.. the 700 series chipsets are 3-4 times more powerful, if not more, than what will actually be in the xb1. also of note.. the 700 series uses ddr 5 ram.. something ms said won't be in the xb1.

their show at E3 was a bit like the picture of the burger you want to get, nice and large, crisp veggies, moist, choice looking real beef, nice, fluffy buns, all very mouth watering in appearance, so when xbox customers get the bag and drive off, will they find some 1/4 inch smooshed meatpaste not in any way resembling the picture, accompanied by a unsatisfactory flavor and bubble gut later on. Then you regret spending soo much on soo little, knowing you could have gotten much more burger for less at another place.


Right now I know they are having issues getting what they want, and what dev's need, out of their combination of ddr3 and esram functioning on the console itself. This may also be a hint that they will not release the xb1 as they have stated, but wait a bit longer, and toss out a product that will compete, if not go higher on paper than ps4, while also changing their stance on the more pressing complaints customers have of their current system and policies (doubtful, they are stubborn to a fault.).. we will see.