I have a question about xbox one please help!!

[Mirimon]

lol is funny you know, everyone said that the PS3 killed teh 360 at E3 and yet when they launched the 360 won the last gen console war. The PS3 was thought of as a joke amongst most gaming communities and as a blu ray player that also play games. The only response i ever seen for PS3 fans was that we have free online and we can -play blu rays. well the free online is gone and the blu ray ability is on both systems. so now its DRM and Not needing internet. Personally i don't understand why someone would be able to pay 400-500dollars plus accessories for a next gen system and launch titles but not be able to afford an extra 5 bucks to buy new instead of used. and also if you don't have internet IDK how you even live in 2013? i mean even games require patches here and there that you need to intall and need to have internet. you don't realzie how much you use it.

also anyone find it odd that the PS4 cost less then the PS3 did at launch?

won? according to who? some twighlight tweens in a popularity vote?

once installed the ps3 is there to stay.. once you install an xbox you replace it in 4 months.., or ignore the fact that there are more than twice as many players online for playstation GLOBALLY than xbl...

sales numbers are not a sign of what is best
votes from suburbia america are not what makes something best
the simple fact that there are far more players on one than the other would indicate which is best.

[Upinya Slayin]

won? according to who? some twighlight tweens in a popularity vote?

once installed the ps3 is there to stay.. once you install an xbox you replace it in 4 months.., or ignore the fact that there are more than twice as many players online for playstation GLOBALLY than xbl...

sales numbers are not a sign of what is best
votes from suburbia america are not what makes something best
the simple fact that there are far more players on one than the other would indicate which is best.

http://www.grabstats.com/statmain.aspx?StatID=1010

according to this you are wrong on all accounts, also replace in 4 months? i don't understand what that is even supposed to mean lol.

xbxo ahs more online players and more importantly to me more in the US where i can play with less lag. Sony wins in asia due to them preferring to support sony over an american company. I prefer to play with people as gloablly close to me as possible becuase it gives the best connectioin. i mean your sig shows you awesome internet connection but it means nothing if your playing someone halfway across the world with a DSL connection at 1 MBPS

[Jack The Bear]

http://www.grabstats.com/statmain.aspx?StatID=1010

according to this you are wrong on all accounts, also replace in 4 months? i don't understand what that is even supposed to mean lol.

xbxo ahs more online players and more importantly to me more in the US where i can play with less lag. Sony wins in asia due to them preferring to support sony over an american company. I prefer to play with people as gloablly close to me as possible becuase it gives the best connectioin. i mean your sig shows you awesome internet connection but it means nothing if your playing someone halfway across the world with a DSL connection at 1 MBPS

He is reffering to the horrible replace rate a large amount of the community went through, including myself, with the original 360. When Red Ring killed all the launch consoles, it was a problem for alot of people back then.

[Upinya Slayin]

He is reffering to the horrible replace rate a large amount of the community went through, including myself, with the original 360. When Red Ring killed all the launch consoles, it was a problem for alot of people back then.

ah the RROD. i had an original one (w/o the HDMI port) for over 7 years before it finally died on me about a month ago. In that time it RROD twice and both times MS fixed it for me for free and i was only w/o it about a week each time. The fact they warrantied somehting for an extra 5 years or so to makeup for there mistake to me is priceless. on the same sense my brother had 3 PS3s rigth now. he has brought 5. 2 of them died and that was in 5 years. sony didn't warranty them and IDK how as he ahrdly uses them. 360 had serious overheating problems but at least MS fixed them for free for a long time. PS3 had less ailures but they aslo mad eyou buy a new one everytime

[Jack The Bear]

ah the RROD. i had an original one (w/o the HDMI port) for over 7 years before it finally died on me about a month ago. In that time it RROD twice and both times MS fixed it for me for free and i was only w/o it about a week each time. The fact they warrantied somehting for an extra 5 years or so to makeup for there mistake to me is priceless. on the same sense my brother had 3 PS3s rigth now. he has brought 5. 2 of them died and that was in 5 years. sony didn't warranty them and IDK how as he ahrdly uses them. 360 had serious overheating problems but at least MS fixed them for free for a long time. PS3 had less ailures but they aslo mad eyou buy a new one everytime

Depending on the policies your PS3 was under. My brother Jeremy just lost his PS3, They replaced it since they could not fix it. And i had my Gamestop warranty for my X360 so I kept getting mine back atleast, from Gamestop. The problem is, i lost 4 in 1 year, And im not joking. And my PS3 and never broke and I have had it since MGS4 was released. It really is all about what experience you had. Mine was unfortunately lack-luster with microsoft, while your friends was with sony. The way of the world.

[Mirimon]

yes.. I was referring to the 87% failure rate of launch 360's, the current 360's being made are at 54% failure rate. which

as for the number of players online, while they show some different numbers, ALL reports on accounts an online activity indicate psn has more than TWICE as many online users, probably because 1: it costs nothing additional, and 2: because it is sold and plays in more countries since it is not as region restricted.

back on the topic of failing consoles.. with an 87% failure rate (usually RRoD) the xbox was pure crap. it was enough of an issue that several people opened shops to make money just on repairing the 360.. reading through xbox magizine articles at that time, they casually mention how many xbox's they had to swap out that month and then go back to the story like nothing happened.. for a consumer it is a pretty big deal (unless you took it to walmart. and while you get a fast turn around replacement from them, even if you don't have a receipt....somewhere down the road that is a loss of $$, and gets tacked on to other prices).

the 3 year warranty did not happen until a COUPLE years after the fact.. after having cost players and retailers alot of time and money, not to mention costing several people their homes and some lives due to the thing catching fire!..

point is.. the console was soo poorly made, and there is no excuse for a product to need supplemental warranty programs, it's just a sign that they have a poor expectation in terms of durability. (ps3 has a failure rate of .05%... WELL below standards). I am honestly surprised the product, even in it's current state, was legally allowed on the market... as it does not meet many regulations and criteria for safety and consumer standards.


people (the 13-46% that haven't had the console die on them) will argue this until they are blue in the face, doing all they can to defend what, in terms of reliability, is a poorly made product.

[Upinya Slayin]

Depending on the policies your PS3 was under. My brother Jeremy just lost his PS3, They replaced it since they could not fix it. And i had my Gamestop warranty for my X360 so I kept getting mine back atleast, from Gamestop. The problem is, i lost 4 in 1 year, And im not joking. And my PS3 and never broke and I have had it since MGS4 was released. It really is all about what experience you had. Mine was unfortunately lack-luster with microsoft, while your friends was with sony. The way of the world.

guess its the luck of the draw. any eelctronic device can have a failure rate. for insatnce i brought a brand new samsung TV from best buy and it died 3 months later lol. they came and fixed it for free (samsung did not best buy) and ahven't ahd a problem since. still it wouldn't make me not get a samsung. I think their Screens are top of the line. even on cell phones their screens are much nice then i've seen on others. i ahve a driod and the smasung phone screens are way better IMO

[Upinya Slayin]

yes.. I was referring to the 87% failure rate of launch 360's, the current 360's being made are at 54% failure rate. which

as for the number of players online, while they show some different numbers, ALL reports on accounts an online activity indicate psn has more than TWICE as many online users, probably because 1: it costs nothing additional, and 2: because it is sold and plays in more countries since it is not as region restricted.

back on the topic of failing consoles.. with an 87% failure rate (usually RRoD) the xbox was pure crap. it was enough of an issue that several people opened shops to make money just on repairing the 360.. reading through xbox magizine articles at that time, they casually mention how many xbox's they had to swap out that month and then go back to the story like nothing happened.. for a consumer it is a pretty big deal (unless you took it to walmart. and while you get a fast turn around replacement from them, even if you don't have a receipt....somewhere down the road that is a loss of $$, and gets tacked on to other prices).

the 3 year warranty did not happen until a COUPLE years after the fact.. after having cost players and retailers alot of time and money, not to mention costing several people their homes and some lives due to the thing catching fire!..

point is.. the console was soo poorly made, and there is no excuse for a product to need supplemental warranty programs, it's just a sign that they have a poor expectation in terms of durability. (ps3 has a failure rate of .05%... WELL below standards). I am honestly surprised the product, even in it's current state, was legally allowed on the market... as it does not meet many regulations and criteria for safety and consumer standards.


people (the 13-46% that haven't had the console die on them) will argue this until they are blue in the face, doing all they can to defend what, in terms of reliability, is a poorly made product.

Well i'm not gonna research teh numbers since i do agree that the quality of the orignal xbox was lacking. the newer ones however have a pretty much 0 failure rate. i've never even hear dof one of the new style ones ever failing. Tahts where i come wary. the 360 was rushed and was made to be cheaper then the PS3. the reaosn was the PS2 dominated teh market and MS had to do somehting to compete with it ,whiel sony released the PS3 at its normal pace and with up to 600 dollar price tag. now in thsi gen i see the PS4 being cheap and i wonder where they skimped and teh 1ts thing that comes to mind is the heat sinks. I feel like the PS4 is gonna have a high failure rate.

and nobody lost their house or died in an xbox fire so come on. i mean a dell laptop blew up during a conference 1 time but lets not exxagerrate and say they are crap prodcuts

[Jack The Bear]

Well i'm not gonna research teh numbers since i do agree that the quality of the orignal xbox was lacking. the newer ones however have a pretty much 0 failure rate. i've never even hear dof one of the new style ones ever failing. Tahts where i come wary. the 360 was rushed and was made to be cheaper then the PS3. the reaosn was the PS2 dominated teh market and MS had to do somehting to compete with it ,whiel sony released the PS3 at its normal pace and with up to 600 dollar price tag. now in thsi gen i see the PS4 being cheap and i wonder where they skimped and teh 1ts thing that comes to mind is the heat sinks. I feel like the PS4 is gonna have a high failure rate.

and nobody lost their house or died in an xbox fire so come on. i mean a dell laptop blew up during a conference 1 time but lets not exxagerrate and say they are crap prodcuts

From what I understand, the PS3 was expensive due to its in-house Cell Processor that they built specifically for it. That was the bulk of why their console was so expensive at first. This time they learned and are using a different one, one that isnt built in house so they aren't dropping so much money into it. Also I do want to point out that the X1 being sold cheaper then the X360 was at launch. And in my mind the X1 is more expensive because they are all being launched with the Kinect, which is an expensive device. They are kind of reversing themselves.

Hopefully Sony and Microsoft both learned from the X360 and PS3's overheating and failure problems and fix them. Better consoles for everyone is just better.

[Jack The Bear]

Side note, I just google'd and even the ELITE version had RRoD issues, obviously not as bad as the launch ones though.