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    HP and Regeneration rates tested--- see inside for the numbers!!!

    *** Updated on 6/19

    I've been wanting to do this since launch but never got around to it. I think this info should be a sticky, but nobody should ever nominate their self for a sticky thread right...

    I wanted to learn about regen rates with shields and just base regen rates. I also wanted to find out what our base HP is. See below for my plan and my findings.

    Here was my plan:
    1. Remove all perks
    2. Remove any Regen shield
    3. blow myself up
    4. second player will revive me and tell me the 2 green numbers that pop up after I have been revived. This will tell me my shield HP which should already be known and my base health HP
    5. I will blow myself up again until I am slightly below half my HP bars.
    6. once I regen naturally to half of my HP bars, I will start a stop watch to determine how fast I regenerate back to full HP with no perks or shields assisting.
    7. Repeat steps with a Regen shield on
    8. Repeat steps with a regen perk on.
    9. Repeat with both regen perk and shield on
    10 repeat with regen shield/perk and fortitude perk

    !!! UPDATE !!!

    Here is what I found:
    LEGEND
    NoPerk - no perks
    NoSH - no shield regen ability
    SH 50% - Shield with 50% regen rate
    Regen - Regeneration perk level 3
    Fort - Fortitude perk level 3

    Our base HP is 1200 + EGO rating increase (which is still yet TBD)
    This tells me that FORTITUDE 3 is equal to 18.5% of your natural base HP. I am now trying to nail down how many HP get added to base with each EGO level.

    With Fort our max HP is (1200 + EGO rating increase)+225.
    Base and Fort HP are treated as if you had a base hp with a reserve tank. Fort does NOT add 225 HP to your base. It will make more sense as you read on.

    Now that we know these numbers we can figure out a percentage of HP given back with regeneration abilities.

    Noperk + NoSH = HP is fully restored in 30 seconds AFTER your shield is fully restored first
    This breaks down to about 3% HP per second AFTER your shield is fully recharged

    Fort + NoSH = HP is fully restored in 35 seconds AFTER your shield is fully restored first
    This breaks down to about 3% HP per second for the base then an additional 5 seconds of 3% regen rate to fill out the extra 225 AFTER your shield is fully recharged

    NoPerk + SH 50% = HP is fully restored in 20 seconds AFTER your shield is fully restored first
    This breaks down to about 5% HP per second AFTER your shield is fully recharged

    Regen + NoSH = HP is fully restored in 24 seconds. Regeneration start IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. This breaks down to about 4% HP per second IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. (this shaves off anywere from 2.25 to 9.6 seconds) ~ (This test was done with a respark 2.85 - results will very depending on shield recharge rate.)

    Regen + SH 50% = HP is fully restored in 10 seconds. Regeneration start IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. This breaks down to about 10% per second IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP.
    ~ (This test was done with a respark 2.85 - results will very depending on shield recharge rate.)

    Regen + Fort + SH 50% = HP is fully restored in 12 seconds. Regeneration start IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. This still breaks down to 10% per second IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP for the base then an additional 2.? seconds of 10% regen rate to fill out the extra 225 AFTER your shield is fully recharged. ~ (This test was done with a respark 2.85 - results will very depending on shield recharge rate.)

    What did we learn?
    The myth that the Fortitude + Regeneration perk combo means you gain life faster is busted - peharps patched in .020

    We learned that base hp is 1200 and is then increased based on your EGO level. This needs more testing to understand how EGO increases this number

    We learned that the Fortitude Perk at level 3 is the equivalent to a 18.5% of your natural base HP

    We learned that the shield regen percentages don't mean X% of HP per second but they mean that they give you an increase to your base regen rate.

    I learned that the Regenerate perk is amazing and will forever be on every load out I have!!!

    In closing I think a lot of mysteries have been solved about how the inner workings of the regeneration abilities. I love stats and numbers so this has helped me out a lot.

    Enjoy!

    ** EDIT 6/19 - A major clean up of this article has taken place since I have learned a ton more about this topic with extended testing. Thank you all for being supportive of this thread. Also a quick shout out to Iron Stormforge, DoomHammer42069, and DestroyA11Human for their help last night and to inferi81 for inadvertantly allowing me to fast travel to him in SF with my fresh EGO 20 character.

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    Nice work, thanks for that This puts to bed the idea that fortitude and regeneration are bugged. I remember seeing people saying they thought it was actually decreasing HP and regen time.
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    looks like I'll be tinkering with my perks later tonight. Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnyrides View Post
    I've been wanting to do this since launch but never got around to it. I think this info should be a sticky, but nobody should ever nominate their self for a sticky thread right...

    I wanted to learn about regen rates with shields and just base regen rates. I also wanted to find out what our base HP is. See below for my plan and my findings.

    Here was my plan:
    1. Remove all perks
    2. Remove any Regen shield
    3. blow myself up
    4. second player will revive me and tell me the 2 green numbers that pop up after I have been revived. This will tell me my shield HP which should already be known and my base health HP
    5. I will blow myself up again until I am slightly below half my HP bars.
    6. once I regen naturally to half of my HP bars, I will start a stop watch to determine how fast I regenerate back to full HP with no perks or shields assisting.
    7. Repeat steps with a Regen shield on
    8. Repeat steps with a regen perk on.
    9. Repeat with both regen perk and shield on
    10 repeat with regen shield/perk and fortitude perk

    !!! UPDATE !!!

    Here is what I found:
    LEGEND
    NoPerk - no perks
    NoSH - no shield regen ability
    SH 50% - Shield with 50% regen rate
    Regen - Regeneration perk level 3
    Fort - Fortitude perk level 3

    Our base HP is 1336
    with Fort HP is 1561

    Noperk + NoSH = HP is fully restored in 30 seconds AFTER your shield is fully restored first
    This breaks down to 44HP per second AFTER your shield is fully recharged

    Fort + NoSH = HP is fully restored in 35 seconds AFTER your shield is fully restored first
    This breaks down to 44HP per second AFTER your shield is fully recharged

    NoPerk + SH 50% = HP is fully restored in 20 seconds AFTER your shield is fully restored first
    This breaks down to 66HP per second AFTER your shield is fully recharged

    Regen + NoSH = HP is fully restored in 24 seconds. Regeneration start IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. This breaks down to 55HP per second IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. (this shaves off anywere from 2.25 to 9.6 seconds)

    * Regen + SH 50% = HP is fully restored in 10 seconds. Regeneration start IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. This breaks down to 135HP per second IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP.
    * (This is a test that is truly impossible to do unless tested with every type of shield since standard regen rates will apply at the start of when your shield is fully recharged. for my test I used my Respark Regen 50% 2.85 delay)

    Regen + Fort + SH 50% = HP is fully restored in 12 seconds. Regeneration start IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. This still breaks down to 135HP per second IMMEDIATELY after taking damage to HP. (This was also done using a repark regen 50% 2.85 delay)

    What did we learn?
    The myth that the Fortitude + Regeneration perk combo means you gain life faster is busted - peharps patched in .020

    We learned that base hp is 1336 but COULD be different based on your EGO level, I did not test that.

    We learned that the Fortitude Perk at level 3 is about the equivalent to a 16% increase in total HP

    We learned that the shield regen percentages don't mean X% of HP per second but they mean that they give you an increase to your base regen rate.

    I learned that the Regenerate perk is amazing and will forever be on every load out I have!!!

    In closing I think a lot of mysteries have been solved about how the inner workings of the regeneration abilities. I love stats and numbers so this has helped me out a lot.

    Enjoy!
    Thanks..love this info. We need more valuable information on general forum like this.

    I totally blew off regeneration, but after reading what is does in combo with shield regeneration perk, I will add it on.

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    yea nice work appreciate the info time to shuffle around some loadouts
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    Donnyrides:
    Really good info to have, thanks for doing that.

    As above, shuffling to do in my loadouts.
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    Well done sir.

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    Nice work, hope it gets stickied. In the meantime I'll pop it in my sig.

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    Nice job, I appreciate the info. Since early on, I haven't used the regen perk because 3% seemed like not worth it, when I use a shield that gives me 75% health regen. But a clan mate of mine swears by the perk, and now I see the value of it.

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    I think I already have regen in every loadout, but if not I'll be adding it, and then nailing them down in their permanent spot.

    Very nice work!

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