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    Quote Originally Posted by badhabit View Post
    post the link in this thread pls, i dont get tired of seeing a flamer getting killed.

    and i dont care alot about what flamers like you who always search the fault in other peoples think about me (:

    i already got monitored by admins, rly strange that i can still log on to my account, with all my glitch abusing and "hacking"

    i talked to atom btw, he really admitted abusing some siphon glitch, he didnt want to tell me how it works, to prevent more people from using it but he told me that its not possible while bunnyhopping. and if you were paying attention so much that you can be so sure that im abusing that glitch, you also may have noticed that im constantly bunnyhopping while running around with a shotgun.
    The reason you can still log on to your account is because the lazy admins in this game don't care about kicking people for glitching, that's why all those other glitchers are still running around aswell!
    Ow, and when you know you're being watched it's not that hard to stop exploiting the glitch for a few minutes...

    It's no proof at all that you aint glitching and it's even less in your favor to bluff me with posting the video, just let me edit it a little bit and gather some more evidence and i'll be sure to send everybody a link

    I really wonder what your logical explaination will be for the Syphon nano effect that procs ALL THE TIME.

    PS: just be glad iam not calling you cheater, but techincally that's exactly what you're doing!

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    im bunnyhopping all the time and using the glitch isnt possible while bunnyhopping. how is that no proof ?

    yea, show all the players how the proc CHANCE of nano effects work, sometimes they proc often, sometimes they procc rarely or none at all. have fun gathering all moments at which im having some more luck, and dont forget to cut out all the parts i get 1 or no proc.

    cant wait to see your pseudo-evidence (;

    and they dont tell you that they are watching you, genius. at some point i could notice the aimbot check, my crosshair went a few times quick to the ground when i aimed at ppl. if i would have used a glitch, they'd know.

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    I had a prob with a plyr before with the infinite shield. Yes, after getting burned initially by the pvp setu[p shotty/immun I fell into the loop of jusing it. My shotty had fire nano and everytime I would hit Macavelly his shields would recharge almost instantly.
    After reading on here it was a perk setup, I had even less respect for Trions beta testing/quality control.
    BUT, if peeps keep that setup forever then WTF ya even PVP'g for when ya own almost all the time. Thats boring!

    Otherwise, the shotty/immun has gotten boring. I have moved to other setups for freight yard/waterfront. But on Observatory lvl I dont see any other close quarters setup that works as good....without taking advantage of(a.k.a. exploiting) some of those cheap *** perk setups.

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    I've played games where both my SG and my AR proc like mad and then I have been in games where my guns barely proc at all.
    Sometimes i can even swear that it procs more on certain people than on others. Perhaps thats just my imagination or a syphon resistant shield.

    One thing I do know tho is that the VOT Fragger proccs more than any gun in the game right now. Always has and probably always will. It also seems like guns have different proccrates by default. Some VOT Fraggers barely proc while some of them proc almost every shot, this is a fact that has been tested out by me and a few mates of mine. We figured this out just after the launch and gathered as many siphon VOT Fraggers we could, some where useless and some was just too imbalanced to hand out to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakk View Post
    I've played games where both my SG and my AR proc like mad and then I have been in games where my guns barely proc at all.
    Sometimes i can even swear that it procs more on certain people than on others. Perhaps thats just my imagination or a syphon resistant shield.

    One thing I do know tho is that the VOT Fragger proccs more than any gun in the game right now. Always has and probably always will. It also seems like guns have different proccrates by default. Some VOT Fraggers barely proc while some of them proc almost every shot, this is a fact that has been tested out by me and a few mates of mine. We figured this out just after the launch and gathered as many siphon VOT Fraggers we could, some where useless and some was just too imbalanced to hand out to the public.

    Shakk
    Yeah oke, but still the principle stays the same, it's abusing a glitched gun
    And in his case i haven't had a single encounter with him that he didn't proc the Syphon, so if it was random, it couldn't be all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakk View Post
    One thing I do know tho is that the VOT Fragger proccs more than any gun in the game right now. Always has and probably always will. It also seems like guns have different proccrates by default. Some VOT Fraggers barely proc while some of them proc almost every shot, this is a fact that has been tested out by me and a few mates of mine. We figured this out just after the launch and gathered as many siphon VOT Fraggers we could, some where useless and some was just too imbalanced to hand out to the public.
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    Yeah oke, but still the principle stays the same, it's abusing a glitched gun
    And in his case i haven't had a single encounter with him that he didn't proc the Syphon, so if it was random, it couldn't be all the time

    you havent had a encounter with me where i didnt proc siphon on every shot i made ? thats just not true.

    if you meant that im proccing siphon atleast one time in a 1n1: im proccing it most of the time after the 2nd or 3rd shot i make, not just if im playing against you, all the time. i dont know how often your nanos procc, but it always was that much for me.

    i proc it alot, i proc it that often that i already thought that i might abuse a glitch without knowing it. turned out im not, obviously im just lucky.

    and to the principle stays the same, its abusing a glitched gun: what should i do against that ? salvage my siphon fragger and any other fragger i get until i finally find one which really sucks ? complain to trion about that, dont blame me for it.

    if you still think im abusing a glitch knowingly then i cant change that, if id make a video to show you that that is not the case, ud say that i stopped using that glitch for the time i recorded that video.

    if you know a way that i can proof you that im not a glitcher, tell me and ill do that for you. if you dont, shut up and wait until the fix comes, if im suddenly a noob, then you were right.

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    Iam just comparing it to my own VOT Fraggers i've had, i've had about 6 VOT Fraggers i've tried out with different nano effects, i can barely make 1 nano effect proc for every two clips (about 16 shells), when iam lucky maybe one per clip (8 shells). And i was exaggerating that it is every shot with your Fragger, but it's at least every 2-4 shells you fire, which is 4 times more than me.
    And in my oppinion luck can't have anything to do with it, since luck is completely random and your Syphon procs occur in a pattern.

    And iam not saying that you have to salvage your Fragger, but if you're knowingly exploiting it then you should be prepared for the sh*tload of cheater accusations from other players aswell, and can't come crying here that people start reporting you, because it's YOUR CHOICE to use it, so it's also their choice to report you for any suspicious activity.

    And willingly or not willingly using it is really not the point here, the point is that people are seeing something that no perk or weapon can generate under normal circumstances, so cheating or not, people saw something that wasn't normal and reporting you is the right thing to do then, although i wouldn't call it hacking, just glitching, nothing more.

    PS: i wouldn't be worried to get banned for the reports, because the support staff didn't even respond to my report issue i send about you a week ago, that just shows how lazy the support is here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamon666 View Post
    Iam just comparing it to my own VOT Fraggers i've had, i've had about 6 VOT Fraggers i've tried out with different nano effects, i can barely make 1 nano effect proc for every two clips (about 16 shells), when iam lucky maybe one per clip (8 shells). And i was exaggerating that it is every shot with your Fragger, but it's at least every 2-4 shells you fire, which is 4 times more than me.
    And in my oppinion luck can't have anything to do with it, since luck is completely random and your Syphon procs occur in a pattern.

    And iam not saying that you have to salvage your Fragger, but if you're knowingly exploiting it then you should be prepared for the sh*tload of cheater accusations from other players aswell, and can't come crying here that people start reporting you, because it's YOUR CHOICE to use it, so it's also their choice to report you for any suspicious activity.

    And willingly or not willingly using it is really not the point here, the point is that people are seeing something that no perk or weapon can generate under normal circumstances, so cheating or not, people saw something that wasn't normal and reporting you is the right thing to do then, although i wouldn't call it hacking, just glitching, nothing more.

    PS: i wouldn't be worried to get banned for the reports, because the support staff didn't even respond to my report issue i send about you a week ago, that just shows how lazy the support is here.


    i did a little pve test and im getting around 6 proccs on 2 mags(20 bullets). tested it with 3 different siphon fraggers. you said you tested it with different nanos, was siphon among them ? if not, maybe siphon has somehow a higher procchance then other nanos. if yes, something has to be wrong with your or my procchance.

    edit: since i dont have a vot fragger with a other nano then siphon, i compared a radiance and a siphon techmag pulser. siphon: 3-8 proccs per mag. radiance: 0-2 proccs per mag, mostly 0. it seems to be the siphon nano itself what is messed up.

    my problem is, that the cheater accusations come without knowingly abusing it, i reached that point a week ago.

    would be nice to hear how often other peoples proc their nano with a siphon vot fragger.

    if i really get much more proccs then the rest of the players, the glitch we were talking about maybe just needs to be triggered 1time and you keep it. if that is the case, i might have triggered it somehow and now i have it permanently.

    i would never start playing not fair in pvp on purpose, i even stopped playing with infectors because i understood that its taking the fun out of it for other people.

    if i or my weapon really is glitched somehow, ill report myself, open a thread and ask trion to check that.

  9. #39

    LAWL or Not?

    So, now i have a liddle anouncement and some words to share with u guys. I Tried a rdicioulus amount of Weapons, Synergys, and mod combinations of mostly every weapon with every color or perk build. I have a onlie Time per day like 11 hours, yes i know junky but so what. And Blackhabbit, guess what? I never found a freaking immunizer who could two shoot a player in PvP or just a Raider. So if that isnt any glitch/Hack or else U my friend must be in the Matrix and connected to this game. Further is it not a very good evidence to not use any glitch/hack if every glitch/bug/hack user in this game come to aid ur reputation. I admit to be not the best PvP player here more just the middle, but if i cloak/shadow strike shoot u with a sawed off in ur Head and u even lost 25% Shield, wich reloads after 0,5 seconds, dont kills u, i am really curious how that works? And dont mess around with arrogant L2P **** now or ur ,,SKills,, .

    And my dearest friend CheatingJoe, i have screens of our conversation where u admit to abuse shield glitch. Apart of this, to call me dammed german **** in French, is not just the behave of a racistic Chimpanze, its although a abuse of the Eula. So, if u (sarcsam mode on) GOD LIKE IMMORTAL ELKITE PVP GODS (sarcsm mode off) where so Kind to play fair and without any glitch or else, maybe , just maybe, u can prove what u can and show us mortal Noobs hiow to play efficent.

    ´Joetheshow:``We must also accept that in close combat is very strong, if he uses a weapon glitched or not Glitched I do not care, we must always find a way to be stronger than those who kill us, the solution is not to complain but to fight.`

    big words young feller, but to fight with any way could sometimes go in a way that forced u to change the game ;P

    And the announcement is, my fellers, me and our good friend Fraps will be on ur side every day we see u cheating or glitching or how u called ,,play massiv skilled,, and me personal Joe got atm a huge amount of cheating evidence wich i cut to a best off CheatingJoe atm

    Thanks for ur attention

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    Quote Originally Posted by badhabit View Post

    would be nice to hear how often other peoples proc their nano with a siphon vot fragger.

    Since I currently play around with nano effects and have a few syphon weapons (only blue) I will look into it. From my memory I would say that my VBI SMG with 1.10 nano effect chance mod, nano effect perk triggers the nano effect once or twice per mag.
    VOT Fragger about once. My bolt-action sniper more often. Tachmag Pulser with burst +3 probably 3 times. But again, never really counted how often it happens. I will count now.

    BTW: how often does syphon trigger the shield reg effect? Everytime or only once in a while?

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