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    Quote Originally Posted by Leold View Post
    I assumed they meant everything besides Stratocarriers, to justify why ark hunters don't use flying vehicles. Stratocarriers might be armored and protected enough to survive falling ark debris and somehow protected from the higher radiation levels in the sky, unlike the Mutant copters and Dark Matter carriers. They should've mentioned that though
    yeah, it might be.. i don't know. But also in the Arkhunter Chronicles episodes, there was a VBI ship that was shot down. It really doesn't explain itself too well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IGears View Post
    yeah, it might be.. i don't know. But also in the Arkhunter Chronicles episodes, there was a VBI ship that was shot down. It really doesn't explain itself too well.
    This is part of where things just don't match up.
    Besides.....even if Strato Carriers worked...........how the crap did Nolan get on board a military stratocarrier?

    Minor things that end of conflicting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baelrusk View Post
    This is part of where things just don't match up.
    Besides.....even if Strato Carriers worked...........how the crap did Nolan get on board a military stratocarrier?

    Minor things that end of conflicting.
    i know right... he had to be in New York to get on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leold View Post
    I assumed they meant everything besides Stratocarriers, to justify why ark hunters don't use flying vehicles. Stratocarriers might be armored and protected enough to survive falling ark debris and somehow protected from the higher radiation levels in the sky, unlike the Mutant copters and Dark Matter carriers. They should've mentioned that though.
    http://www.defiance.com/en/series/ne...ame-meets-show

    this explains some of the game-to-show things we really don't get told (which should be explained far better than they are, and this is by no means a perfect listing), it says that the mutant helicopters are "low-altitude" so they are fine, but I still didn't see anything aexplaining why the stratocarriers can fly that high (it says only five were made so I am guessing the have special technology to protect them)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondin View Post
    You need story to kill zombies?
    Considering they're not "zombies", in the traditional "Brains!" sense, but instead simple living people who happen to be sick -- not to mention presumably the sons, daughters, wives, and husbands of the locals -- yeah...

    Generally slaughtering someone because they're ill, even violently so, is frowned upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leold View Post
    I assumed they meant everything besides Stratocarriers, to justify why ark hunters don't use flying vehicles. Stratocarriers might be armored and protected enough to survive falling ark debris and somehow protected from the higher radiation levels in the sky, unlike the Mutant copters and Dark Matter carriers. They should've mentioned that though.
    How can we launch a missile with the cure when either the debris will destroy the rocket, or the radiation would destroy any biological cure? How did the astronaut survive the radiation from his decent in the last episode? Why does all the survivors of the Pale War seems to be so buddy buddy after spending so many years trying to kill each other? Why are all the 'alien' races basically humans with cosmetic differences? (Even in the game, the Voltans are humanoids in the suits)

    And the list goes on and on and on. It is like back story is just the time line from the Defiance SyFy site, and everyone is just suppose to fill in the blanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myria View Post
    Generally slaughtering someone because they're ill, even violently so, is frowned upon.
    I thought that what we were doing everyday in this game (or other fps btw)....

    When you kill a skitterlings do you think about his family too?
    Because you know they are all brothers and sisters and that's why the matron is so upset because ppl kill her brood over and over again. THAT, makes me sad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    How can we launch a missile with the cure when either the debris will destroy the rocket, or the radiation would destroy any biological cure? How did the astronaut survive the radiation from his decent in the last episode? Why does all the survivors of the Pale War seems to be so buddy buddy after spending so many years trying to kill each other? Why are all the 'alien' races basically humans with cosmetic differences? (Even in the game, the Voltans are humanoids in the suits)

    And the list goes on and on and on. It is like back story is just the time line from the Defiance SyFy site, and everyone is just suppose to fill in the blanks.
    if i filled in the blanks, i could break the whole lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    How can we launch a missile with the cure when either the debris will destroy the rocket, or the radiation would destroy any biological cure?
    The missile could (and logically, should) have been a cruise missile. That could stay fairly low and follow terrain, neatly avoiding the problem of high-altitude flight. Something like an AGM-129 ACM has the range to make it from the Bay Area to St. Louis and it would only take about 4 hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    How did the astronaut survive the radiation from his decent in the last episode
    He was in a spaceship that was designed to protect its contents from radiation in outer space for a 5000-year voyage without the benefits of an atmosphere or the Van Allen belts. Whatever radioactive material is in our atmosphere in 2046 was most likely contained within the other ships that the newly crashed ship was traveling with. You can assume the ship is well-shielded.

    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    Why does all the survivors of the Pale War seems to be so buddy buddy after spending so many years trying to kill each other?
    Battle of Defiance. While the leaders may have wanted to destroy each other, most of the soldiers simply preferred not to get killed, and would have been just as happy not trying to kill the other guy if the other guy would stop trying to kill them first. See the Christmas Truce during WWI for a non-fictional example where the guys actually doing the killing decided they'd really prefer to just stop, all things considered.

    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    Why are all the 'alien' races basically humans with cosmetic differences? (Even in the game, the Voltans are humanoids in the suits)
    *shrugs* Because those are the ones that found us first? Because the aliens that are nothing at all like us weren't looking for planets like Earth to settle? Because if they aren't enough like us to interact with us as equals, it's a totally different story that someone else already told, or is planning to tell, in a different show?

    Convergent evolution? Maybe species that aren't similar to us don't have the right mental or physical tools for, or don't think similarly enough to us to even get interested in, developing space flight. If you're, say, an intelligent fish, do you think about space flight? Can you even make the leap to primitive air flight with the additional burden of having to get the weight of the water you need to survive airborne? What do you use for engines without fire?

    Directed evolution? Maybe the Votans are following the path of some other, long-vanished, alien race that seeded a bunch of star systems with the stuff of life that would eventually evolve into all of the species in the Defiance series. Perhaps if Mars hadn't lost its water after they passed through, there would have been two species in our solar system instead of just one.

    Most likely, though, it's because the actors playing the characters are basically humans. It's difficult to answer the question of why the Votans are basically humans with cosmetic differences when we don't even know why we're basically humans with cosmetic differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogo_Yahagi View Post
    The missile could (and logically, should) have been a cruise missile. That could stay fairly low and follow terrain, neatly avoiding the problem of high-altitude flight. Something like an AGM-129 ACM has the range to make it from the Bay Area to St. Louis and it would only take about 4 hours.
    I liked all your answers, but I'm not sure it was a cruise missile. In the Mission with Eren, it look like a missile that could be shot into orbit. But I'm not a Rocket Scientist. But i am curious how the Cure was loaded into the missile. Also if it crashed landed, how was it able to survive impact.
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