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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteCell View Post
    Is there any sort of official ranking or leaderboards regarding pvp?
    Yes, but it is hidden right now. Only Trion's team has access to it.

    FIY, that hidden ranking is used by the game to balance teams when entering a PvP game.
    Too bad, it had such a great potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracian View Post
    Yes, but it is hidden right now. Only Trion's team has access to it.

    FIY, that hidden ranking is used by the game to balance teams when entering a PvP game.
    So like ELO ranking?

    Isn't there a pvp population issue? I wonder whether it's truly being used any longer due to convenience issues of getting into a match quickly

    Also do you have a source for this?
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    Aside from a few people, PvP seems to be a joke right now from all that I have read and the little I have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteCell View Post
    So like ELO ranking?

    Isn't there a pvp population issue? I wonder whether it's truly being used any longer due to convenience issues of getting into a match quickly

    Also do you have a source for this?
    I don't think it works like ELO, since there are no duels. I don't know how it's calculated, but I'd bet it's simpler than that, something like a points per game ratio. And it is only used to balance teams, so that top ranked players do not play in the same team, except when they are in the same group.

    And for the source, IIRC, it was mentionned by French Community Manager (Taome) during a livestream he made with the French Community. I may be able to dig a little bit to find that, but not right now : I'm at work and can't access Twitch.
    Too bad, it had such a great potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracian View Post
    I don't think it works like ELO, since there are no duels. I don't know how it's calculated, but I'd bet it's simpler than that, something like a points per game ratio. And it is only used to balance teams, so that top ranked players do not play in the same team, except when they are in the same group.

    And for the source, IIRC, it was mentionned by French Community Manager (Taome) during a livestream he made with the French Community. I may be able to dig a little bit to find that, but not right now : I'm at work and can't access Twitch.
    So now we have to check the other language sections for things that need to be mentioned to the entire community? that's just lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    So now we have to check the other language sections for things that need to be mentioned to the entire community? that's just lovely.
    <troll>

    I guess you catched a glimpse of what non-english speaking users have to live when searching for infos...

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    Too bad, it had such a great potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracian View Post
    Yes, but it is hidden right now. Only Trion's team has access to it.

    FIY, that hidden ranking is used by the game to balance teams when entering a PvP game.
    The match making system is stupid, and the reason why PVP takes so long to queue I'm suspecting. It should just be 100% random team generations. I seam to always find myself against lately against Ark & Quickstrike, or Omni. Which baffles me considering I normally triple in kills the person under me.

    But I would REALLY like to see what the ranks are though, and I think weekly script/salvage/loot rewards should randomly go to the top 10. All the data they need to do this is there, so is the programming, so is the infrastructure, they just need to add the UI for it, but alas, Trion is too busy fixing major bugs like removing random wandering NPC's.
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    there are quite a few quality players that I would consider to be in the top tier. I would wager to say its larger then a top 10 of any given day bad match/good match of high quality playing from players. seems to me that players are getting higher and ego and using stronger builds as well and pvp as a whole is becoming more competitive. at the end of the day though in pvp's current state it is highly dependent on the quality of your team and the cohesiveness of teamwork within. I have a higher level of respect for a group of individuals with even kills working strongly together then a long wolf dominating certain players. soon we will have the battle arenas though and we will get duels to get a real grasp of the best "solo player" instead of best team player

    all and all I like our crowd and even with this games flaws I greatly enjoy competing against you guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippersnapper View Post
    Until they fix where certain information is stored, my answer is this:

    The Top 10 PvPers are the 10 BEST at cheating w/o arousing suspicion.
    I like your logic any body better than me must be cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAMVILELENT View Post
    The match making system is stupid, and the reason why PVP takes so long to queue I'm suspecting. It should just be 100% random team generations. I seam to always find myself against lately against Ark & Quickstrike, or Omni. Which baffles me considering I normally triple in kills the person under me.
    I also like your logic also. Which is I am a really good player unless I am playing against better players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitch reflex View Post
    I like your logic any body better than me must be cheating.
    I'm not good enough to go by that logic. Then everyone would be cheating.

    My point is that because of certain flaws in where information is stored, a cheater can beat the top skilled player. However, the obvious cheaters are probably caught quickly because they are reported. So it's not 'anybody better' that's cheating, but rather the 'good cheaters'.

    They're probably just "tweaking" a little here and there. Instead of say... "1 AR shot that does 20K dmg" (exaggerating to make a point). This is a good thing though. It gives the non-cheater a fighting chance since you still need skill in this case.

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