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    Don't be disheartened by the cynical

    The second anyone has something good to say about the game, twenty over zealous pessimists rise to the occasion with the mindset that any positive commentary is a personal attack designed to illegitimize their ranting and raving. Don't let their flawed logic and impatience impact your experience negatively, and don't jump on the nay sayer band wagon.
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    Somebody sure rustled your jimmies good.

    Instead of being passive aggressive and creating a thread entirely to antagonize some unknown poster you should quote the response you had issue with and respond using factual game information to challenge it. That's how forums work. Also if you have a problem with accepting a difference of opinions on the internet you're going to have a bad time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteCell View Post
    Somebody sure rustled your jimmies good.

    Instead of being passive aggressive and creating a thread entirely to antagonize some unknown poster you should quote the response you had issue with and respond using factual game information to challenge it. That's how forums work. Also if you have a problem with accepting a difference of opinions on the internet you're going to have a bad time.

    Good day, Chap!
    You just proved his point.

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    Haha I don't mean to attack any one person, nor do I have an issue with difference of opinion. It's just an observation, I to have issues with the game but I feel like more is accomplished through positive suggestive feed back rather than spewing noxious hate all over everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbob spittlewop View Post
    Haha I don't mean to attack any one person, nor do I have an issue with difference of opinion. It's just an observation, I to have issues with the game but I feel like more is accomplished through positive suggestive feed back rather than spewing noxious hate all over everything.
    Echo chambers of praise don't help game developers and are not a good source of feedback. Defiance is an MMO, everything that occurs in the game is monitored and tracked. Is there even an exist survey for this game? They know what players like. What they lack is reasoning behind why players don't like things or why they aren't doing x. If players were truly "spewing noxious hate all over everything" the moderators would do their job.

    Playing backseat moderator and telling others to disregard what is posted is usually frowned upon on any decent forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteCell View Post
    Echo chambers of praise don't help game developers and are not a good source of feedback. Defiance is an MMO, everything that occurs in the game is monitored and tracked. Is there even an exist survey for this game? They know what players like. What they lack is reasoning behind why players don't like things or why they aren't doing x. If players were truly "spewing noxious hate all over everything" the moderators would do their job.

    Playing backseat moderator and telling others to disregard what is posted is usually frowned upon on any decent forum.
    So are you defending the irrational ratings and attacking sensible discussion? What is your point here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteCell View Post
    Echo chambers of praise don't help game developers and are not a good source of feedback. Defiance is an MMO, everything that occurs in the game is monitored and tracked. Is there even an exist survey for this game? They know what players like. What they lack is reasoning behind why players don't like things or why they aren't doing x. If players were truly "spewing noxious hate all over everything" the moderators would do their job.

    Playing backseat moderator and telling others to disregard what is posted is usually frowned upon on any decent forum.
    Being a developer myself, it kind of does help. Okay, from my experience, if I developed say a unique weapon that could adapt to changing situations and enemies as needed for this game. The feedback from some users would be positive in that they are saying things like, "That is exactly what this game needs, and it has made it a lot easier for me to do this... and this... and this... Thank you for your efforts to improve the game." That would be constructive and helpful to me as a developer because it shows me what areas of what I made helped the players of the game and how it helped them. Maybe in the future, I'd add other similar features to the game to improve on other areas and further improve the ones I've already improved on.

    Now, if you are being down right rude and saying such and such is broken, but not describing in detail how its broken and what platform is broken, etc. This isn't something that I as a developer nor any developers I know can tolerate and use to improve our items that we developed. With that being said, threads that come off as attacks against players for this and that, or come off as what is such and such parent company doing with the game... this and that... etc. type statements are negative towards the community of the game and often from my experience is often something we can't use to improve the game or the items in the game.

    So what the original poster is hinting at, is basically to respect everyone's opinions and know them as such and go out there in the game try it for yourself and have fun in doing it. Through that process you will make your own opinions and/or justify the opinions of others.

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    I'm not trying to endorse the "fanboys" anymore than I am the haterade drinkers. Constructive criticism doesn't have to come in the form of rude and intrusive posts. There's lots of "trolling" from people who are, I suppose, dissatisfied with the product and seeking some revenge or just venting rage over the forums, the level of tact applied to these posts may vary but a duck is a duck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbob spittlewop View Post
    I'm not trying to endorse the "fanboys" anymore than I am the haterade drinkers. Constructive criticism doesn't have to come in the form of rude and intrusive posts. There's lots of "trolling" from people who are, I suppose, dissatisfied with the product and seeking some revenge or just venting rage over the forums, the level of tact applied to these posts may vary but a duck is a duck.
    To be honest, you're the first person to post that I actually read as trying to be neutral if that is even possible. You are like the Jedi code states, "There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity." (As written in The Jedi Path by Daniel Wallace). It is actually refreshing to for a change not really need to defend or point out something in a post on here. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyako View Post
    To be honest, you're the first person to post that I actually read as trying to be neutral if that is even possible. You are like the Jedi code states, "There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity." (As written in The Jedi Path by Daniel Wallace). It is actually refreshing to for a change not really need to defend or point out something in a post on here. Thanks
    No sir, thank you! haha
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