Don't be disheartened by the cynical

[Elric1]

Rather be a lemming than a...

Well apparently cross breeding seemed to have worked for you congrats. =) Least that animal you pictured doesn't walk off cliffs but hey you want to go for it. I'll he haw long after you hit bottom =)

[Dave Blackwell]

Let's see.
1. Game started bad.
2. Took least 2 months to be a half way decent game.
3. By time game became decent we ran out of things to do and asked for some real content like our DLC.
4. Many of us upset to hear it was put off or even planned- hold on trying not to laugh out loud, since the beginning.
5. They added Sieges then took them away which was the ONLY actual content since the release that was actually worth anything to date.

If you are not mad either you just started in June or your a lemming. I see trion and me using you lemmings because how else can I expect to not buy anything at the store and still expect the game servers to be paid for and remain up?

That's right. Lemmings. All of us who realize how badly we been burned thank you for willing setting yourselves on fire and giving us something to enjoy Until the end of July.

1. Started off badly due to not reaching a sufficient target in purchases for the base game. This leads to having to make cuts in order to compensate for issues, improvements and such.

2. Have you played any other MMO from its humble beginnings? I can assure you that close to almost none have had perfect release since the game has gone live. Anyone who frequents MMOs should have (and did) expect this - hence why some of us out there have no direct issues with the problems that occur. However, we don't kick them under the carpet and then proceed to spout constant positivity and blind support of the game at hand.

3. If you've been following what Trion have said they have mentioned that the reason why they have pushed the release of the first DLC back is due to addressing bugs that have been reported by players. Is there any pleasing you lot? It should also be common sense not to rush through a game that does not have any expansions and more so when such a game has barely just launched as well.

4. Reference point three.

5. Sieges were tied into to the episode that they were relevant to. If you paid attention to what was said in that episode you would understand that the plague broke out in the bay area and had started spreading from there. Hence the short reference to the plague in the episode where the reporter from the bay area was related to the family member who came into contact with the flu was the one who dropped in front of the doc. & nolan etc., if you listened to the data recorders, before that to tie in the plague for the episode that followed after.

Another thing, explain to me how a plague in the bay area would be justified after the episode where they were relevant aired? How exactly would a plague exist in a location from which the cure was launched via an old ICBM to the town Defiance where they cured the plague because of the cure that the ICBM was housing?

Sieges are not gone entirely, they will be back. Now, take deep breaths before you read this next sentence, I don't want you bursting any blood vessels. They'll be included when the DLC is added, only this time the sieges will actually be justified in not only the lore but also the games setting in the bay area with the Volge. Look at the inflicted sieges as if they were test runs in order to iron out potential bugs/issues for the sieges that will be taking their place as a permanent aspect of the game.

Also, the reference to waiting until the end of July. You and I both know that those similar to yourself will be playing the DLC when it comes just to nitpick at all the unanticipated issues that they couldn't cover during testing as test servers will never amount to what real traffic will account for or achieve. I look forward to reading your infinite wisdom on how to develop a working game.

[tuckerpb]

The second anyone has something good to say about the game, twenty over zealous pessimists rise to the occasion with the mindset that any positive commentary is a personal attack designed to illegitimize their ranting and raving. Don't let their flawed logic and impatience impact your experience negatively, and don't jump on the nay sayer band wagon.

i like what you are saying. 1 out of every 21 players that still play can find something good about the game. now if all the people that have left the game were still here. then i bet that would be 1 out of ever 51 players. heck if trion keeps this up it will soon be 1 out of every 1 people that still plays can find something good about the game. to bad then there would not be enough to start a co-op. lol

[Enundr]

So are you defending the irrational ratings and attacking sensible discussion? What is your point here?

there is some truth behind every rant , even if you dont notice it right away , the truth is buried in what they say and is the root of why they say their rants.

[crasher]

i like what you are saying. 1 out of every 21 players that still play can find something good about the game. now if all the people that have left the game were still here. then i bet that would be 1 out of ever 51 players. heck if trion keeps this up it will soon be 1 out of every 1 people that still plays can find something good about the game. to bad then there would not be enough to start a co-op. lol

Math and logic fail.
Happy players don't tend to seek out boards to post in nearly the same percentages as unhappy players.

Happy players may make a critical post when they think it is warranted, unhappy players tend to post continuous criticism occasionally bordering on hate in larger number.
(Example the number of players who claim to have uninstalled the game as complete trash yet still post here frequently since then).

Please note:
1.) the use of the word 'tend' above means it is in no way 'absolute'.
2.) Fanbois can be just as big a wrench in the statistics.
3.) I have no quarrel with Enundr's post above mine.

[Dooks]

Pessimist are around for a reason, to keep the optimist grounded.

[crasher]

This is also great wisdom.

[Newsin]

There is always a handful in every forum, for every game.

The game is getting there. It's a bit slow for some I guess. I personally think they are on a pretty normal schedule. Either way, the developers are doing what they can. Its summer for them and they have a lot of obligations to meet its a busy quarter with all the events and conventions on top of kids being out of school etc etc.

There is one thing I can say about Trion though they tend to follow through sometimes not as quick as we would like but in the end they do.

[novat0]

lol....I wouldn't say we were negative all the time, more like highly passionate about the game....

constructive criticism tends to derail into chaos frequently and often in the forums, and after a couple months of constant complaining, many of the old guard have stopped responding....sad...

This may be true of you, but there is definitely a lot of complaining with a lack of detail on these forums. I think the most constructive thing I have seen all week on the forum is people asking to bring Charlie back. Although I am aware how trivial their request is, it is at least specific enough to give Trion a path to action.

[Newsin]

This may be true of you, but there is definitely a lot of complaining with a lack of detail on these forums. I think the most constructive thing I have seen all week on the forum is people asking to bring Charlie back. Although I am aware how trivial their request is, it is at least specific enough to give Trion a path to action.

Thats because some people dont know how to be constructive.