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    Quote Originally Posted by jbob spittlewop View Post
    ...in almost every mmorpg I've ever played the "end game" content is the exact same thing; grind dailies- get better gear- grind dailies more- improve said gear- expansion- grind new dailies- get new better gear- etc, etc, etc...
    Yeah, one thing I've never understood about arrpeegeeyers is that they would they rather have horrible content that they're forced to do to get the next "shiny" rather than quality content which is fun enough to do in and of itself.

    That skinner box stuff... gross. After Defiance I'll never be able to play another tab-to-target themepark RPG snoozefest again. Nor would I even want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavadus View Post
    After Defiance I'll never be able to play another tab-to-target themepark RPG snoozefest again. Nor would I even want to.
    Your being ironic right???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cavadus View Post
    Yeah, one thing I've never understood about arrpeegeeyers is that they would they rather have horrible content that they're forced to do to get the next "shiny" rather than quality content which is fun enough to do in and of itself.

    That skinner box stuff... gross. After Defiance I'll never be able to play another tab-to-target themepark RPG snoozefest again. Nor would I even want to.
    I came to this conclusion not too terribly long ago. It is one of the reasons I tried out Defiance. I will not be giving any MMO with vertical progression/raiding a second look ever again. And if Destiny has vertical progression, then it is out too.

    Someone actually posted here, back around launch, stating that they usually don't enjoy the gameplay of MMOs, but just do it for the loot. How sad these people are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbcameron View Post
    A bunch of stuff
    If chat is your biggest concern especially with DCUO, I don't know what to say.

    But that seems like a minute thing especially since most people don't use it anyways other than looking for parties, for which it works fine. Most of the communication done there is like here, with voice additions. You seem to talk a lot about 'chat' and less about content. I guess reading text is more important than actual content, or do you consider that content? People aren't leaving this game because of chat issues.. that's just sprinkles on the ice cream, lol.

    Oh, Trion's 'working on it'.. adding new content? You mean they aren't just sitting around and watching TV? Gee, that's good to know. I guess having to have customers tell other customers they are doing their jobs is a good idea. I guess only have 25% of your workforce left tends to make things go slower, amirite? Well, if they go any slower, Trion will can a few more Defiance people if players keep leaving.

    You say you're going to be 'pissed' IF they reskin? This is Trion, mate. Look at Rift and you'll get a very good idea how they feel towards reskinning. Four different kinds of turtle mounts. Gear at level 1 looks like gear later on. Plus as I said, they have far less people to do it with now.. probably have some poor bloke working between two desks 6 days a week.

    I hope you remember what you said about DCUO's reskinning when the Sieges come back with different mobs but the same thing shortly, just like the rifts in Rift. But based on what you say I doubt you'll make a stink or even remember you wrote that. You'll claim "I don't care if it's the same mobs, this is FUN!"

    Which is exactly what all the people playing/paying for DCUO said about their "reskinned" DLCs.. which is a ton. But you know.. at least they GOT their's to say that about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandri View Post
    Lotta talk about DCUO in this thread. Meh...I played it before it went free to play and just couldn't get into it. I was too spoiled by City of Heroes....heck even Champions was more fun.
    CoH was soooo fun, that it's no longer even alive. Closed down. Dead. Gone for good.

    Yep, that sure wuz fun and popular!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fancypants View Post
    If chat is your biggest concern especially with DCUO, I don't know what to say.

    But that seems like a minute thing especially since most people don't use it anyways other than looking for parties, for which it works fine. Most of the communication done there is like here, with voice additions. You seem to talk a lot about 'chat' and less about content. I guess reading text is more important than actual content, or do you consider that content? People aren't leaving this game because of chat issues.. that's just sprinkles on the ice cream, lol.

    Oh, Trion's 'working on it'.. adding new content? You mean they aren't just sitting around and watching TV? Gee, that's good to know. I guess having to have customers tell other customers they are doing their jobs is a good idea. I guess only have 25% of your workforce left tends to make things go slower, amirite? Well, if they go any slower, Trion will can a few more Defiance people if players keep leaving.

    You say you're going to be 'pissed' IF they reskin? This is Trion, mate. Look at Rift and you'll get a very good idea how they feel towards reskinning. Four different kinds of turtle mounts. Gear at level 1 looks like gear later on. Plus as I said, they have far less people to do it with now.. probably have some poor bloke working between two desks 6 days a week.

    I hope you remember what you said about DCUO's reskinning when the Sieges come back with different mobs but the same thing shortly, just like the rifts in Rift. But based on what you say I doubt you'll make a stink or even remember you wrote that. You'll claim "I don't care if it's the same mobs, this is FUN!"

    Which is exactly what all the people playing/paying for DCUO said about their "reskinned" DLCs.. which is a ton. But you know.. at least they GOT their's to say that about.
    You don't actually read posts, and while you may think you have a point you're just arguing to argue at the moment. Enjoy what you're going to take as a victory and remember if you're going to try and refute a point try to understand what you're arguing.

    Right now you're tap dancing just to be contrary.

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    I think the DLC is going to be even more than we have been told. They are going to want to pull people back in that have lost interest. We shall see
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbcameron View Post
    You don't actually read posts, and while you may think you have a point you're just arguing to argue at the moment. Enjoy what you're going to take as a victory and remember if you're going to try and refute a point try to understand what you're arguing.

    Right now you're tap dancing just to be contrary.
    Exactly why I quit arguing with him. He either never fully read my posts, was too daft to understand my posts, or just skimmed them and took what he wanted from them. Half the arguments he made against me, I had already countered in a post he quoted me on.

    Besides, I enjoy intellectual debates :P

    Oh, I feel a hate-bash-fancypantsisdagawd response coming on.

    Makes me feel like I should go over to the DCUO boards with my problems with that game. Oh wait, nevermind, I just remembered. I actually want to spend my time on a site for a game I enjoy. Never understood the "I'm an atheist so I have to go to a church to tell everyone that they are wrong" mentality. Maybe it comes from not enough attention as a child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    Exactly why I quit arguing with him. He either never fully read my posts, was too daft to understand my posts, or just skimmed them and took what he wanted from them. Half the arguments he made against me, I had already countered in a post he quoted me on.

    Besides, I enjoy intellectual debates :P
    I have to say I look forward to a good debate too. It makes things interesting and if someone changes my mind through careful and reasoned debate I respect them all the more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbcameron View Post

    Right now you're tap dancing just to be contrary.
    Really? I've said my piece already to the other guy. You didn't really need to respond to that; it's all there.

    At this point, it's just sit back, wait a few months and watch the trainwreck as fans like you continue to say 'Game's fine.. at least it's not like DCUO, SWTOR or some other profitable game'.

    Yeah, those games 'suck', but they have money coming in and content going out. This game? It's the bestest! It's just as great as CoH!"

    And look how that turned out... loyal fans to the end crying about someone shutdown their popular game while SWTOR is still running.

    Ok, you win. The game is fine.. it only needs a 'little' more seasoning, a 'little' more content, and a 'little' more players and it will be great! (now, stop replying.. you win )

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