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    Senior Member Sdric's Avatar
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    PvE & PvP:

    VBI SMG

    -Less DPS than other SMGs.
    -More inaccurate.
    -Requires zooming (which is a pain for a close ranged weapon)
    -High damage loss at range

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    No reason to use this instead of a Pulser or VBI Assault Rifle.
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    Least favorite are sawed off shotguns. They are ok when cloaked in PvP, but the reload is painful. They have no use at all in PvE.

    I like bmg's for certain things. I usually have it as my secondary weapon when I am not trying to level it. But I have to admit the leveling up of the bmg is ridiculous.

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    People whining about reload on sawed offs, its supposed to be slow. It's damage output is worth it. It would make them even more OP if it was dumb fast at reloading.

    BMG's. I want to like them, but your better off wacking your enemies over the head with it than tickling them with some static.
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    Infectors should be a little harder to use. Hell, you don't even have to aim when using that thing. Cheapest thing ever during PvP.

    BMGs definitely need a buff.

    Bolt-action sniper rifles are my favourites. I think they're fine the way they are even though a lot of people seem to think that they need a buff. 1hko headshots are always amazing. If you're not aiming for the head, the gun is useless.

    Semi-auto sniper rifles are complete and utter garbage, they're decent against raiders and mutants though. Garbage in PvP.

    Assault rifles are good. Both PvP and PvE.

    LMGs are garbage, except for the SAW of course which is freaking awesome.

    I haven't really used SMGs a lot so I won't provide feedback on those.

    My 2 cents.

    Edit:

    Pvp:

    God Tier: bolt-action sniper rifles.
    **** tier: VBI SMG and infectors.

    PvE:

    God Tier: bolt-action sniper rifles.
    **** Tier: VOT Disruptor and infectors.
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    Least fav; Pump shotguns. Cant be arsed clicking all the time to usewhen i could use a combat shotty for less dmg sure but hell of an easy gun to fire.

    Fav that I hate; Sawed off shotty. I hate using them but keep trying. I want them to fire with a huge bang and smoke but they go poof and are crap basically.

    Favourite; two SAWs with ammo regen perks, scavenge etc and never stop firing lol
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    Any gun that has a self-revive roll useless for PvP

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    rocket lauchers... very limited ammo... ridiculously poor damage considering what kind of weapon it is... very easily out matched by every other weapon except bolt action sniper rifles.. which suffer from the same problems... at least make the damage comparable to the rockets and rifles used by the raiders miners and dark matter... I thought we were suppsed to be the bad***es... PvP or PvE these weapons need some tweaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerotic View Post
    rocket lauchers... very limited ammo... ridiculously poor damage considering what kind of weapon it is... very easily out matched by every other weapon except bolt action sniper rifles.. which suffer from the same problems... at least make the damage comparable to the rockets and rifles used by the raiders miners and dark matter... I thought we were suppsed to be the bad***es... PvP or PvE these weapons need some tweaking.
    I will agree most rocket launchers are schtakogarbage. BUT, the sludge rocket and Bonfire and hella useful in pvp and pve, especially against blur and cloak users

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Cavadus View Post
    How many bullets per crit kill does that reward? 50*1.03 = 51.5, so that would be +1.5 but everything is rounded down so that's 1 bullet per crit kill. Do you get more than one bullet?
    Gives two.

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    frc saw I have a syphon effect on mine ground pounder and detu aru are my favorite. Least favorite is bmg and just about and shotgun good in pvp but sucks in pve but I like the one shot gun that shoots the grenades.

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