PvP open world

[Nyako]

I don't agree, if you don't want to be a target don't join a faction. you could do separate servers PVP and PVE but without an option to switch in between the two at will. If you just had a flagging mission and then an unflagging mission and scrip cost to become neutral again would be fine.

Then why are people during the shadow war open world events always shooting at people that are questing? It happens to me and at least 4 other people regularly. So... We can't trust you all to play even a simple Shadow War without shooting at other people that aren't part of it... We can't trust you all to do open world PVP either. The only way you all could do Open World PVP then would be to make another server PVP for you all or else, we are welcoming people to be griefing others just like they do right now with Shadow Wars shooting people that aren't in the Shadow War.

[ShyGuySpirit]

Consider your clan's name have Echelon in it they better choose it. Some clans have individuality. Let their members have freedom of choice. Clan unity is done with events. Sometimes those events pit the clan against each other, but it still creates Unity.

[ChEeSe]

One question though, how to separate open world PVP from PVE.

I know many players that don't want to PVP, and if this was an open world PVP game, they'd likely never play again thus hurting TRION even further. So elaborate out that idea please.

No, there is a choice to be PvE or PvP. If you join a faction you are flagged by other factions and then they can attack you if they see you in the open world and if you are not flagged by the faction you will not be attacked. Then you are neutral.

[ChEeSe]

yes you do have a good point but that clan would have to talk to their members and agree on a faction for the clan.
this is to Cale307 sorry missed clicked

[Stoned Soldier]

Then why are people during the shadow war open world events always shooting at people that are questing? It happens to me and at least 4 other people regularly. So... We can't trust you all to play even a simple Shadow War without shooting at other people that aren't part of it... We can't trust you all to do open world PVP either. The only way you all could do Open World PVP then would be to make another server PVP for you all or else, we are welcoming people to be griefing others just like they do right now with Shadow Wars shooting people that aren't in the Shadow War.

How many times have you died or even lost your shield because of a Shadow War competitior. Even better, seriously how often are shadow wars up. You see the big circle like everyone else, if you don't want that to happen then don't go in that area. Go coward from from bullets that cant even hurt you.

To your Pvp server idea, once again a big no from me. I am not trying to encourage a dedicated pvp server, just as you Don't have to participate in shadow wars or competitive neither would you have to be flagged for a faction.

[Stoned Soldier]

Consider your clan's name have Echelon in it they better choose it. Some clans have individuality. Let their members have freedom of choice. Clan unity is done with events. Sometimes those events pit the clan against each other, but it still creates Unity.

True, but if something like this were to unfold in the future, it would surely bring a new aspect to naming the Clan and also what clan you join, be it a free for all, family or Pvp Faction clan.

[ChEeSe]

Then why are people during the shadow war open world events always shooting at people that are questing? It happens to me and at least 4 other people regularly. So... We can't trust you all to play even a simple Shadow War without shooting at other people that aren't part of it... We can't trust you all to do open world PVP either. The only way you all could do Open World PVP then would be to make another server PVP for you all or else, we are welcoming people to be griefing others just like they do right now with Shadow Wars shooting people that aren't in the Shadow War.

Did you even read my post? You are asking questions when most of them are answered in my original post. Please read it and then ask questions. Ok

[jbob spittlewop]

Being shot by bullets that can't hurt you is a problem? Seriously? Anyways, I like this idea, but how about to alleviate the problems this would only work for max lvl players and only after they have decided to join a faction.

[ChEeSe]

Being shot by bullets that can't hurt you is a problem? Seriously? Anyways, I like this idea, but how about to alleviate the problems this would only work for max lvl players and only after they have decided to join a faction.

there is not a max lvlin the game,i think. You can join the PvP whenever you want to. Basically whenever you fell like you can handle yourself against other players.

[Nyako]

Being shot by bullets that can't hurt you is a problem? Seriously? Anyways, I like this idea, but how about to alleviate the problems this would only work for max lvl players and only after they have decided to join a faction.

Its annoying as hell. And in other games, engaging people in open world PVE environment by shooting at them (whether you do damage or not) is grounds to be suspended from those games. Unfortunately, it even came down to banning some people from one game in particular as they were repeat offenders. Did we change the policy for them doing that? No. Did we even debate changing the policy because they and others were like, but they do no damage? No. I'm not crossing the line with more details as to what I did as an assistant admin for a certain game, but that is why when I see it here in shadow wars, it makes me so frustrated and down right annoyed, since we counted that as griefing.

Now, maybe you can kind of understand my point. Even if you can't, open world PVP would guarantee more would be doing that type of griefing activities. And the very instance I go off and shoot the two people that be playing Defiance on the live stream from TRION repeatedly in an open world environment, with them not being in PVP mode. I bet you that people would be banned and/or that whole system reworked out of the game. Defiance is billed as a PVE game with some PVP elements. You got the PVP elements, you don't need more.